Steve G.

Ron Paul Press Conference: Where’s Bob?

In Libertarian on September 10, 2008 at 11:55 am

Ron Paul’s vote-your-heart press conference was held this morning. Video and story here. Apparently Bob Barr was not there, though Nader, Baldwin, and McKinney were. Barr’s published schedule has a press conference in DC at noon today.

Paul pointed out that the ‘four candidates’ had come together to agree that it is the (electoral) process that they are trying to change. Paul went on to introduce the other three candidates, and mentioned they were still ‘waiting for Barr to show up’. The video ends there, and does not contain the statements of the other candidates or the Q&A. I’m sure someone will point to a more complete video.

I generally like Paul as a speaker, but didn’t feel like he was in very good form for this announcement.

  1. I’ll mirror my IPR comments here:

    Bob Barr continues to find ways to slap the Ron Paul movement in the face and embarrass the LP. Clearly he is in D.C. and at the national press club, since he has his own event there in 15 minutes. It is inconceivable to me that he would be a no show.

    I’d like to see Barr bring Ron Paul activists into the Party. To that end, I’ve adopted a policy of rewarding good campaign decisions with my wallet.

    Bob Barr got a $50 donation from me when he attended the Rally for the Republic. I had planned to make another donation after he attended this Ron Paul press conference, but apparently the campaign doesn’t want my money. He missed an earlier $50 donation by skipping the Ron Paul R3VOLution March.

  2. Chuck, consider sending that money to the Munger campaign instead🙂

    http://munger08.com/

    We (LP and Munger campaign jointly) are set to run booths at *three* (nearly) back-to-back ten-day fairs. That’s a lot of material to be handing out, so any contributions sure will help!

  3. The four point platform McKinney, Baldwin and Nader (and, hopefully, Barr at his separate event) are endorsing

    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=484

    We Agree

    The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.

    We Agree

    Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.

    Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.

    The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.

    The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds.

  4. Either he can’t bear to be on the same state with Paul, Nader, McKinney and Baldwin, or they can’t stand to be on the same stage with him?

    No, wait. It was a scheduling conflict, he had a manicure/pedicure scheduled at an exclusive salon, and you have to wait weeks to get in?

  5. Speaking of things that make you go WTF,

    Barr put off filing electors in Louisiana til the last minute, with a hurricane bearing down, and perhaps blithely assumed that late filings will be allowed as a result.

    Not so, according to the SOS. They are saying that a deadline is a deadline, and if their office was closed that day (it was), the candidates should have gotten them in earlier.

    So a state that would normally be among the easiest gimme states in ballot access terms could now be an expensive lawsuit, which might fail.

    Smart!

    Um. Hurricanes just form on the spot that day, right? I mean, it’s not like they take several days to get there or anything. And who could have foreseen the possibility of a hurricane this time of year?

    More generally speaking, this is why waiting right until a deadline is generally a bad idea in a situation where it can easily be avoided such as this one.

  6. I’m off to Louisiana in a few minutes for another candidate who is attempting a late filing.

    If the Barr people need someone to run around, get forms from electors and deliver them to the state office, call Mark Pickens at 720-318-8297. We will not have internet.

    If anyone wants to communicate this info to Barr HQ, LA LP, LPHQ, or whoever needs to be contacted, go ahead and have them call us. If they don’t call us, it’s all good.

  7. If it turns out that Bob Barr blew off this press conference with Ron Paul, then the campaign will be over as far as this Libertarian is concerned. Not much we can do about it now, except withhold our support. Barr could have kicked ass in his remarks. Now it would appear we need to kick his.

  8. “Not much we can do about it now”

    Depends on whom you mean by “we.”

    The LNC has more than enough material to constitute cause for removing Barr as the LP’s 2008 presidential candidate:

    – Incompetent operations (including blown ballot access efforts in West Virginia, Maine and now Louisiana).

    – Failure to follow through on a commitment to contract with the LNC for operational support.

    – Embarrassing no-shows and failures to promote the party.

    None of those items are ideological, they’re just baseline “not a good candidate/campaign” items.

    Of course, if Barr is removed, Root moves into the driver’s seat unless he is also removed. Between his stupid racist interview with Reason, his implicit re-endorsement of McCain with Palin as proxy, etc., that should be a slam-dunk as well.

    The LP’s vote totals might be lower in November as a result than if the LNC just sits back and lets Barr coast on his name rec to get his 750k-850k votes (if that many), or they might not.

    If the second-place finishers for each nomination were substituted, that might create a reasonable media splash and allow the LP to make a much more positive impression.

  9. Mr. Barr has succeeded in completely driving the Ron Paul coalition away from the Libertarian Party. Carefully planned and implemented by Russ Verney..rest assured.

  10. […] to appear at this morning’s press conference.  The original LFV post on this controversy are here and […]

  11. Of course Barr might possibly have felt “honor bound” to skip, seeing as how he appears NOT to agree…
    We Agree
    The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.
    We Agree

    Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. ….

    We know WAR used to campaign on the preemptive war platform (until he figured out that wasn’t a winner and changed his tune) and that Barr was wanting to invade Columbia in the name of the War on Some Drugs…

    Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act,….

    Lets see, that was the Patriot Act that Barr VOTED FOR, and later said he was only unhappy about PARTS of it… Arguably his beloved DOMA is privacy invasive, certainly denies equal treatment under the law…

    The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. ….

    Hmmm…. Wasn’t Barr the one urging a bailout for Freddy and Fanny a few months back?

    The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit…..

    I don’t recall Barr saying much on this either way – so I’ll give him partial credit here, but still doesn’t sound like he has much agreement w/ the Paul people… Maybe THAT’s why he stayed away…

    ART

  12. As far as #9 above, how do we start with removing him as the candidate, especially with the Executive Committee caught up in its own melodrama?

    How the heck are those of us who are running for office supposed the deal with this???

  13. Jill, the best you can do is simply say, “I’m not Barr, and I am running my own campaign separate from his.”

    I know, it sucks, but it’s how bad Barr screwed up.

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