Steve G.

LPMass Resolution: Leave LSLA, encourages removal of Stephen Gordon as LSLA head

In Libertarian, Libertarian Party-US, Local Politics, Politics, Protest on September 8, 2008 at 9:32 am

The following is a resolution from the Libertarian Party of Massachusetts

Whereas State Chair Phillies received an apparently legitimate advertisement “We’re giving away 100,000 signs to support every campaign in America”, and

Whereas State Chair Phillies out of the generosity of his heart took time out of his busy schedule to forward this opportunity to his fellow State Chairs via the Libertarian State Leadership Alliance (LSLA) email list, assuming that the average Libertarian candidate could find out how to divert this opportunity to her or his own benefit, and

Whereas without giving an opportunity to defend himself, LSLA State Chair Stephen Gordon took punitive action against Phillies, and

Whereas the nature of the complaint and the identity of the complaintant have been kept secret so that there was no opportunity for Phillies to defend himself against the unknown complaint, and

Whereas, contrary to the false claim of Gordon, a claim that would have been refuted if Phillies had been given a chance to defend himself, Phillies as of this writing as a result of Libertarian National
Committee action is the National Party’s choice of candidate in Massachusetts, then

Be it resolved that the Libertarian Party of Massachusetts State Committee in accord with its authority under Party Bylaws orders and directs that all ties of LPMass with the LSLA are severed, and furthermore

Orders and directs that its officers under their ex officios may not invoke their ex officios to join or participate in the LSLA, and

While recognizing that each individual Libertarian is free to do what they see as best for the Libertarian Party, nonetheless encourages individual party members to seek activism opportunities otherwhere than the Libertarian State Leadership Alliance, and

Encourages the State Chairs remaining in the Libertarian State Leadership Alliance to seek, forthwith, the removal of Stephen Gordon as their head, and

To the extent useful, the Libertarian Party of Massachusetts will operate on its web site LPMass.org a forum for State Chairs and State Party leaders to participate and communicate at no cost to them.

Resolution passed 4-1, State Chair Phillies not voting.

  1. It’s good to see that the LP National Leadership is continuing its highly successful outreach efforts to the base.😛

  2. For whatever it’s worth department, the area mentioned in the last paragraph now exists…http://lpmass.org/publicbb2/index.php

    The only real restrictions on it are that you have to register as a user on the board, and then you have to request access to the Libertarian Leadership area.

    ART

  3. …Phillies as of this writing as a result of Libertarian National Committee action is the National Party’s choice of candidate in Massachusetts…

    No, he is not.

    Did y’all miss the fun in Denver, or what?

  4. It would be more accurate to say that Phillies and the LNC are co-plaintiffs in a lawsuit to replace Phillies as the candidate in Mass. with Barr.

    To get the LP represented on the ballot, a large number of people in Mass. worked on and signed petitions for Phillies to be the candidate there. It is not his fault that Mass. has a bad law about substitution, and he is evidently doing his part to bring about substitution.

    That said, he is currently the LP’s candidate on the ballot. It would also be wrong to say that any action in Denver was taken to prevent him from being on the ballot in Mass. The hand dealt to third parties isn’t a good one in many states. Personally, I think the LP owes George some thanks for doing his part in spite of the bad situation.

  5. …Phillies as of this writing as a result of Libertarian National Committee action is the National Party’s choice of candidate in Massachusetts…

    No, he is not.

    Did y’all miss the fun in Denver, or what?

    He is, but the National Party in this case refers to the Political Director (whether making the decision himself or acting on the behalf of others, I know not).

    After Denver, we still had the vast majority of the signatures left to gather in Massachusetts.

    It was at this point when Dr. Phillies went to the state government and asked them for the substitution papers, and was informed that contrary to established custom and to what they told him earlier this year, substitution would not be allowed.

    At this point the LP petition was on hold while the decision was being made whether to scrap the existing petition and start a new one for Barr, collect Phillies signatures and sue for substitution, or collect Phillies and run Phillies in Massachusetts.

    Sean instructed the state party as well as petition contractors (Rob Wilkinson/Freedom Petition Management and me) to start collecting signatures on the same form that listed Phillies so that we would not waste the signatures we already collected, judging that the lawsuit would be a slam dunk.

    Well, at this time the petition with Phillies is completed and certified as having more than enough valid signatures, and the lawsuit is still active, so until and unless the lawsuit succeeds, George is in fact the National Party’s choice of nominee in Massachusetts – and it is a result of LNC action, or at a minimum the action of their employee(s).

  6. Well, at this time the petition with Phillies is completed and certified as having more than enough valid signatures, and the lawsuit is still active, so until and unless the lawsuit succeeds, George is in fact the National Party’s choice of nominee in Massachusetts – and it is a result of LNC action, or at a minimum the action of their employee(s).

    Setting aside questions about the competence of our staff or the advisability of certain decisions they made, AND setting aside the asinine laws of various states dealing with political parties, I see nothing to contradict the facts, which are:

    (1) the LP is a national party
    (2) we nominate a *single presidential candidate* in convention
    (3) George was not nominated in convention

    Therefore, George is not the nominee. Yes, nice guy, suffered greatly for the cause, our wonderful comrade, yadda-yadda…. but not the Party’s presidential nominee. The state of Mass doesn’t get to determine the LP’s presidential candidate. the national convention delegates *do*.

  7. Both are correct.

    After all, politics is stranger than fiction.

    Again, I don’t know whether Sean made the decision himself or whether he was just communicating the decision of the LNC-EC.

  8. Dear Susan,

    In that case, you should complain at your staff, because it was *your staff* who decided on June 5, after the National Convention, to petition *for me* in Massachusetts.

    The LNC put me on the ballot here as the Presidential nominee, so I your Presidential candidate, my presence having been paid for by the LNC, even though I am not the National Convention’s choice of Presidential candidate.

    George

  9. The LNC put me on the ballot here as the Presidential nominee…

    Bullshit. The LNC no more ‘put you on the ballot’ than the LPVA put “David F. Nolan and David P. Bergland” (whose names appeared on their petition) on their ballot.

    You don’t see David Nolan posturing as a candidate, do you?

    This disingenuousness does not become you.

  10. “the LP is a national party”

    The LP is no more a national party than the National School Boards association is a national school board. The LP is an aggregate of state parties which gather under an umbrella name and agree to do certain things in concert.

    The fact that that agreement has broken down with respect to one or two states does not magically change the LNC into agents of a fictional “national party” with peremptory powers to dispose of ballot lines.

    This is not the first time this has happened either in the LP (see Arizona 2000) or elsewhere (see States Rights Democratic Party 1948). It probably won’t be the last.

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