Steve G.

Angela Keaton liveblog from LNC meeting

In Libertarian, Libertarian Party-US, Libertarian Politics, Libertarian Politics 2008, Politics, Presidential Candidates, War on September 6, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Angela Keaton is At-Large Representative to the Libertarian National Committee, and one of LFV’s favorite Libertarians. The following was written by Angela Keaton during the LNC meeting, and is reproduced here with her permission. Per her request, no changes will been made unless I see a spelling error. Readers will need to refresh the page to see updates.

Pre-show live drama:

Rachel calls me. I missed my wake up call so I can’t eat the wheat based junk that the LP serves. She wants me to come down ASAP. Rumor is that Dan Karlan wants to move to censure me over my work for

Then for what ever reason, not. Stewart has some other idea. My setting up for live blogging has already made for snide and nervous comments. Austin Petersen is going to tape the meeting.

After some comment Robert Kraus makes about Sullentrup, duct tape and me. I loudly comment that Brad Spangler is my twitter buddy. (I’ll cut Ferguson some slack but Keaton don’t like the Sullentrup play with the actual libertarians of LPMO.)

Announcing that I work for Antiwar is like Jolie and Pitt announcing they are fucking. Both pretentious and obvious.

Stewart will try to play both ends. What is it about me that makes Scott Lieberman and Bill Hall nervously twitter about me? Maybe they’ve never seen a part-asian or or something.


The hand out is “electronic communications decorum.” (aka the anti-Keaton resolution, well not “the” anti-Keaton resolution, there will be many.)

Haugh and I discuss a Caucus with Mr. Wrights. None of yr business.

Kraus and I engage in assorted smart assery and cynicsm.

New staff piece of ass, Casey. Dark, young and easy prey for a cougar like myself.

Guests include two members of the “Snowbird” Caucus: Audrey Capozzi, Vicki Kirkland, and Audrey’s son Bob.

Chair of LPMaryland Bob Johnston (?), Party stalwart Gene Hawkridge, Jeff Dimit, the stunning blonde alt Heather Scott.

M Carling, Alicia Mattson are also here but we only cover the stars.

Donny Ferguson is here as well. I felt him up once when I was drunk. Reform Caucus people are so uptight.

The Admiral keeps staying hello. Must be the dress. Tomorrow, BTP tank top and thong…no I’ll will be wearing pants.

Meeting begins: Jingo introduces Ro Wilson’s “we better audit the hell out of the campaign” Kraus notes that that is required by law. Lee Wrights is a smart ass and one of my favorite patriots.

Conflict of interest: Lee makes some very funny comments about working ISIL but says that Dr. Mary and Dr. Jim have no influence over him. As if?

Since Karlan is about to make a fool of himself. I announce that I’m still married to Cato/Reason/and 5 other main player Golden Boy Brian Doherty and a professional toady for the Garris machine (, webmaster LRC) but it is silly and if you don’t know that you are not keeping up with the movement.

Carling wants five minutes for Audit Co.

Dr. Mary wants to vote on the issue of voting to sue. You all know what this about.

Mark Hinkle wants to discuss list rental. Starr jumps “Executive Session! Executive Session!”

Rachel moves Nolan statement to December meeting. Good, then Nolan can be there in San Diego.

The “Doctah” Stevens controversy is being moved all over the place.

The meat of the meeting is about to begin.

It is revealed that M Carling is the official link between the campaign and the LNC. We promote people well beyond their level of competence as a rule in the LP.

Aaron Starr raises fit over Hogarth/Dixon Afghan Resolution. Doesn’t work. Since I’m a moron,I asked for division. Sullentrup: Do you still want division? Your side won.

Sullentrup: Let the record reflect that Keaton wants to multiply, not divide.

Redpath has been doing more radio and tv. We discover that he worked for NBC in the 80s and went to many Letterman tapings. That does improve my image of Redpath. Those were the good days of that show. He went to his first NASCAR race on July 5th. Redpath keeps on saying it was interesting. Sounds traumatized to me.

Redpath has made the rounds at several events. Met Rex Bell and Eric Shansberg. Fred Smith at CEI (yes, another place where Doherty worked. I could spend all day listing marital conflicts.) Redpath was in LA July to Beverly Hills Hotel for Team Grandparent. Odd since Redpath has no material issue. Art Linkletter is still lucid. Sort of. Social Security Reform.

(Damn I forgot to tell them I was at the MPP Playboy event. That was were Rachel Mills talked me into getting the grotto. I’m an idiot. Still hoping the pics don’t surface.)

Redpath did a German radio interview….I can no longer keep track but Redpath is going on like a Rick Steve’s travel log. Wright and Starr start mocking him. (“What’s your favorite color?”)

Ok, enough with the chair’s report.


Treasurer’s Report:

Will scan. Starr claims that they will be 100,000 in THE BLACK. He then goes on to say that fund raising goes down in the year after the election.

Dixon asks about money spent on NASCAR and Rally for America. He says it is way over budget. Why was so much money spent? Kraus said it was for outreach. Starr says there are two theories on a budget.

Aaron, baby, spins. Pat ain’t buying.

Pat: Unless you really have an authorization, you really don’t have a budget.

Robert Kraus: Stuff happens. Stop micro managing. Raise money where you need to do it.

Pat: Budget should be annual.

Dr. Jim: Do you think that the LNC needs to be better informed on these matters?

Pat: Why do we over spend?

Julie starts combing over the budget. She ain’t screwing around either. Julie’s pretty hot. I love a women who grills the staff and officers about rent.

Aaron gives Redpath props for running up his FEC limit. Got to give Redpath that. He puts his money where his mouth is.

Rach starts asking Aaron some tech questions about different kinds of rent.

(Brian Miller calls me. Dude, can’t type and speak at the same time.)

Kraus is bitching about the copier lease.

My last quarter of Xanax is kicking in. I’m not going to be a bitch. Just type. You can all draw your own conclusions when you read the minutes.


Sullentrup moves to eliminate the policy that we video tape the meeting.

Meeting stops. Austin is trying to reload the tape.

Aaron Starr believes that if the secretary needs to record meetings if he needs it but if he does not need it, we shouldn’t.

Dixon: very much in favor of having meetings recorded (either tape or video) so people can hear or see them. He would rather guests just bring their own equipment taking a DIY approach.

Sink-Burris thinks that legally it is bad idea (per Rutherford) to have anything other than minutes recorded as the GOP/DNC could use material against us.

Ruwart: Distressing that people don’t want this open if for no other reason than we all remember these things differently.

Wrights: We all remember things differently but notes Sullentrup is the best secretary we ever had. In what has to be the weirdest moment ever, Sullentrup kisses Wrights. Room breaks down. Redpath asks members from refraining from PDAs.

Starr than says that all meeting should be recorded by destroyed after the minutes are approved. Starr suggests that would be acceptable if the true motive is to only have good minutes. He then makes legal argument. (NOTE: Starr is neither a JD or a member of the bar.)

Kraus: costs of tape, plus staff member is too much. He doesn’t want to be responsible at meetings for tending to this.

Vote on Starr’s sub motion. Sub motion 9-5. Starr’s motion is now on the table.

Now: A No vote keeps policy as it is,

Starr, Colley, Karlan, Flood, Dixon, Sink-Burris, Hinkle, Jingozian vote to destroy records as soon as the minutes are approved. It passes.


EXECUTIVE SESSION, be back in a few.


During Exec Session, Wright and I take a cig break to discuss questions the Wall family and LPTN leaders have about Mattson, Carling and LNCC.

Haugh joins us. He hates wearing a suit and thinks we need to speed up our ExSessions so they don’t go off topic. (He’s right. They need to be very narrow.)

Quick: Dead guy gave us money. More than FEC allows. Sue to claim that dead people cannot be corrupted.

Patriot Alan Gura of the Heller Case (frm. IJ intern in his law school days) will on the cheap challenge the Fascist State on this issue. We are discussing on to whether to move forward.

Gura is offering to wave certain fees and cap others so the costs are about 15K. If the suit drags on for several years, he might charge UP TO an extra $7500 (Make sure you actually read the minutes b/c it is harder to type and keep track. Sullentrup may be a closet Republican but he does do something quite difficult very very well.)

(Note to Starchild: It is highly unlikely to challenge guests if they wish to live blog or tape no matter how much people may not approve.)

Dixon, Lark, Redpath and others are trying not to make a messy on the fly motion. Tabled so it doesn’t sound pulled out of the collective LNC ass.


Staff Report by Kraus

I going to try to be fair to all concerned.These are not direct quotes.

1.) Acting ED report:

— refund reports re: pay pal. PP has some unusual security issues so check treas reports. They reversed some charges.

— Julie asked about Alexis. She’s in Latin America but will return to LPHQ.

2.) Davis on PR. Davis’ girlfriend is adorable. They are planning to marry December 27th. One LNC member suggests marriage is always a bad idea.

— He’s been in Atlanta the past two months assisting Barr campaign. These are roughly his words: LP proper ceased to be of interest to the campaign once the nominee was chosen. He thought he would just go there and work. It’s given him about 800 contacts including Lou Dobbs. He is very hopeful that he can make good use of this.

Congressman Barr has been so prolific in media. Membership is higher. (notice graphs in notes.)

Davis is still excited about the very nice article Redpath got in Playboy. Mrs. Hawkridge notes that some prefer Hustler.

He thinks that everyone is sick of two party politics.

Dr. Jim wants to know what is up with LP News. Kraus wants to go to a digest size. There have been problems. Audrey Mullins (isn’t she from the Barr campaign or was?) is going to edit this month’s paper. Rachel asks Andrew about what he can do to pr the FEC/BCRA. Andrew thinks he can blast it everywhere and get 15K very quickly. Dr. Mary asks about the amount of resources going to the Barr camp instead of the state candidates. Andrew says the states should handle their own but he adds that he does send press releases and he blogs about state campaigns like Munger. He can do more if you send him material.

He can’t send press lists to every candidate since it would take forever to filter it for each area but he can send something to the state chairs and the state chairs lists.

Jingo wants the OR lists. “We have 6 exciting candidates.” Karlan wants Andrew to discuss some of this at the LSLA.

3.) Louis Calise

— She won’t read whole report to keep it short. She would like to hire someone to help with major donations. Hired guy Casey (still can’t get his last name.) from San Diego State.

— House appeals. Holding strong with high ave gift. Post office mailings and returns are slow. P.O. problems but this is common with non-prof mail.

— Select in mailing lapsed donors to make sure we have a good reason to. Not to bug them.

— Prospecting did not do very well and costs money on the back end but can work out.

— (can’t here. Louise is trying to get through this quickly.)

— Telemarketing should begin in 2009.

— She really wants BOD members to raise money. She knows it is hard but she will work with any board member. She asks if you call people to let the office know so we can thank them from the office and track who made the solicitation.

— Hand out ASKING by Jerold Panas.

Apologize if did not get all of Andrew and Louise’s statements.

Pat Dixon wants to know if the RP prospecting list petition to AL did well. No. He wants to know if the RP lists are worth trying again. Did we approach them about the lists?

Kraus: we have gone to brokers to ask for more RP lists. Some people have very expensive lists. Dixon says but they gave so much money. Kraus notes that in many cases the same people gave over and over again…

Austin is changing the tape. Geez, this is hard.


The very sexy Austin Petersen:

He’s going very fast but this is what I could catch: civil liberties and appeals to anti-corporatism get volunteers going. States were there is are strong volunteers in isolated areas should start meet ups. He also has them call talk radio. He’s working on DC org. He also have some graphs. He is also out in other organization (MPP, Reason, etc.) in his spare time to build up networks.

He’s representing us at various events. He said that 70% of people that came by the Rally booth will vote for Barr, 15% are Mises Institute, Anti-state anarchists who will not support the ticket and 15% for Baldwin.

He also using a technique to talk to Obama supporters. (“I used to support Obama but I am against war.” “I used to support Obama but I support civil liberties.”)

He has produced three videos for the party including one on Denver, an antiwar vid and a humor one for vol recruitment.

Set backs, he could not get vols to do Barr/Root petitioners in DC. He also had trouble dealing with Heller’s constituents.

He will be working on other videos.

Questions: Dr. Jim “What is an activist?”
Austin: letter writing, etc.

Dr. Jim wants central calendar or repository of liberty related events so we can push our speakers, wrangle invites. Can you do that?

Pat: What is the Heller mess?

Austin: An RP worker that Heller wanted to run. Bradley Jansen is the person in question. What people might have wanted was to piggy back off of Barr’s petitioners instead of getting their own. (Might not be a good idea to publish the rest.)

Moving on…

Jingozian has some media suggestions for Austin. (Folks should try to make use of Jingozian before he gets sick of us.)

I gave Austin my critiques of the booth. will forward them to George Donnelly but it simply it is very important to have a better frankly pretty display. It is worth the money to have an easy to assemble very attractive banner, pics, books and stickers. It is also important to be ecumenical in one’s libertarian approach at events that are freedom movement but not specifically libertarian.

Wright asked if Barr gave any money for the booth. Austin and Robert explained that the Campaign for Liberty would not take Barr money for ideological reasons. Austin thinks that the staffers are too tied to the CP and hence not friendly. Redpath asks why: We don’t believe in G-d (Wrights,) Homosexuality and gambling (Peterson), Choice (Hawkridge.)

A very worn down Sean Haugh:

“I would not wish Ballot Access even on those who wrote the laws.”


Pat Dixon wrote up a motion.

It passed.

Counsel’s report: Bill Hall (open session)

Any questions?

Dr. Jim: Status of Maine. Was at ME picnic.

Bill H: No, missed deadline.

BH would like to discuss in ExSession Fincher case, FEC comply, some convention committee report.

Dr. Jim: Let’s rejiggle to guests are shuffled in and out.

Campus Report, Regions, Barr/Root campaign, etc. will be up next.


Lark College Org report.

Will be speaking at Longhorn Libs (UT). Rumor that Dixon and Lark will play with Jimmy Vaugh. Lock up your daughters.


Written reports by regional reps. Redpath asks are there any questions or oral reports?

Stewart Flood uses bribes to get people to respond. (He’s been driving me crazy with the alligator pics. Yes, there was an alligator under the car. We got it.)

Meanwhile, Will Allen Buckley be in the debates. Looks like LPGA might pull it off. Very exciting.
LP Alabama will submit petitions shortly, will be able get Barr/Root campaign.


Lieberman/Hinkle. Had some trouble getting their state chair (CA) to respond so no news but Holtz applied for some seat that he got automatically. Somewhere in Palo Alto Hills some statists are really going to be very sorry…or bored. Actually, I support Holtz driving statist crazy.


Fox–Jesse Ventura is endorsing Krazy Kevin Barrett. Good for him. There are two law suits going on in IL which can really change things.

Lots of good things have happened to read the report. (Everyone is blowing through the material right now so I’m struggling to keep up.)


Rachel is up. All states in Region 7 have Ballot Access. Thank Haugh and Kolhaas for all their help.


The Admiral Colley is on Convention Report. Bob Sullentrup, Rach, Stewart, the admiral, Pat are the new committee. Admiral apologizes for not getting this off the ground just yet. Look like 4th o’ July in 2010. They want to do something East Coast this time.

Yes, Mattson did the electronic survey. (What is this women’s official position? She shows up more than a yeast infection in my pants after a week with Starchild.)

Charleston, Austin came in much lower. (Please ask the admiral about the ranking b/c I already forgot.)

LAST Place—cruise ship! (Wrights and I laugh. Dirty looks prevail.)

1000 people responded.

I never get these surveys. Jingo didn’t get one either.

The Admiral gives up what is actually an ideal handout. It has all the different convention sites with figures. Very nicely done.

Admiral: The statists do fantasy land conventions. We pay for ours. Efficient but not fancy. He will still get one from the DC hotel as well. Not all hotels responded.

Pittsburgh: They treated us really well. They really want our business.

Give Colley this. He made damn sure he got all the details. Pittsburgh Hilton will comp all sorts of things including some hosp suites. Tried to get cont break and buffets deal. Parking is $20 though. Downtown area.

Jingo: How important is the availabilty of local volunteers?

The Admiral: Not the intent to saddle the vols with a big project but it’s a big load on the staff. Mentions Portland mess.

BetteRose and Michelle formed a corp and did a really great job in Denver and actually came in the black. Run by pros is probably best.

Aaron: Biz meeting is Friday and Saturday which is a prob since Monday is day off.

The Admiral: Memorial Day was not available.

Sent Sullentrup to St. Louis. Group rate is a little more expensive, but light rail and parking is much cheaper. Historical site. Under the street and hotel is where the actual convention hall. Each hotel has different model for big events. These are not the final contractual numbers. These can all be renegotiated.

Cleveland: 4-7 July which would allow Monday to be used as meeting day but meeting on Tuesday too. Comps have food and bev minimum. A/v kind of in house. Rapid transit train, parking $23 a day
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Costs and locations are important as well as the ability for the hotels to be able to keep to the committed rate.

Dr. Jim: Have you been given guidance from the LNC?

Redpath: Don’t really want event on the same holiday weekend every time. Rotate it. Afraid that we are going lose people if they are not closer to a weekend.

The Admiral: styled this as a 2.5 day event.

Redpath really wants it on Fri/s/S to keep delegates.

The Admiral wants input from the LNC.

Dr. Mary: No on 4th July b/c of campaigning by our candidates as well as petitioning. Earlier convention allows sigs up early. NH was having prob b/c of that.

Redpath: It doesn’t matter as much as people think. It is just tough to do it in NH no matter once.

Fox: Local libs do parades, etc 4th.

Starr: Can we do odd years? It gives pres candidate more time to campaign.

Dixon: This can complicate electors and delegates. Geoff Neale wrote memo about date change in 06. Pat will send it out.

Hawkridge: the 4th of July That’s my wedding anniversary. (Even my cold heart finds that romantic.)
What about Prez day? The Admiral: Not in Buffeo

Wrights: There are going to be conflicts no matter when we have it.

Starr asks for time extension. 20 more.

Calm down, the Admiral says, we don’t have to decide today. He wants more input from folks. He wants the priority list and goals.

Dr. Jim asks what are the goals and benchmarks?

Sean: Have it as late as possible. Legal reasons, substitution cases, etc. He thinks that odd year is capitulation. He notes that Ruwart and Barr got in the race late so he doesn’t see it as a prob. Both GOP/DNC have their convention late.

The Admiral: Yeah, but the GOP/DNC have circuses not conventions. We are having a meeting.

The cruise. Note that meals are all included. “6000 calories whether you want them or not.”

Oh god, Mattson is up.

Mattson says that concern that it appears to be to expensive. She hands out more detail. They are really trying to push this.

Hawkridge: people don’t have Ids, fall off the boat, no drop in locally, how the hell do get press on there. (All good questions btw.)

Keaton: Does this dock somewhere where the sex trade and drug laws are more liberal? That would make it more appealing to me.

Wrights: Can we even check this out?

Starr: OH HOLY HELL, he starts reading from Robert’s Rules to address the question of drop ins. How the hell did I work for this guy with out beating the living shit out of him? Wrights and others commence with eyerolling.

The Admiral cuts Starr off. G-d bless our service men.

Jingo: We are in a recession, foreclosures, this doesn’t look good.

Redpath: I like craps as much as the next guy….but…

The Admiral: I don’t want to pay someone to take me to sea…

Hinkle: We are a membership group. We should do what the members want. They want DC, they got DC.

Dr. Lark: if you want a cruise, do it as a seminar for a different LNC event

Starr: one of our main goals should to not lose money on these things.

Redpath wants to know what each of the members thinks. Starr gets pissy. Starr is over ruled.

Folks have all different ideas but Hinkle, Wrights, Ruwart, Jingo and Keaton go with the members’ choice.

I’m feeling for Dixon b/c Austin would the best convention ever. Hippie rednecks, good pot, homosexuals, freaks and Wes Benedict.

Lark has no strong pref. Sullentrup of course wants St. Louis. (It does have Knapp and Spangler and that’s good enough for me.)

The Admiral is taking a very liberal laid back approach.

Starr starts again on the damn cruise. Dude, unless I can take mushrooms and fondle Shinghal in the hot tub, no dice.

Redpath and Wrights had enough. Coffee time.

  1. Angela is one of my favorite anarchists!

  2. Tell Haugh that I’m thrilled to see my name listed as a candidate on Please ask him whether phase 2 of the project, which is to add a link to the candidate’s websites, can be completed before November. If that seems overly ambitious, it may be better to cancel the project, and instead put a link to Donnelly’s candidate list on the home page.

  3. I vote for the cruise ship!

  4. Wow. This narrative both disturbs me and makes me want to be on the LNC. Intrigue! High drama! Alligators!

  5. Good for Angela Keaton. I’m sure she’s fighting.
    Sounds like any LNC meeting that I’ve ever been told about is just like an episode of Romper Room. And I keep hearing the same names when it comes to whining and obviously censoring. Must be lots to hide—including some behind the scenes drama with some of the elected members. Wives–lock up your husbands!!

  6. It means that one of the putzes are reading this stuff.

    To that person, whatever you are: RESIGN ALREADY! WE PWN YOU!

  7. And no, that doesn’t mean Angela, Lee, Mary, etc. It means the Starr chamber.

  8. I attended the LNC meeting as a member of the gallery.

    I think it’s great that Angela has been live-blogging the meeting. I appreciate her engaging writing style and colorful language.

    However, I want to point out that I’ve seen a number of factual errors in the reporting above. One such error produced a statement so offensive to LP activists that it merits immediate correction.

    – [Andrew Davis (LP Media Coordinator) has] been in Atlanta the past two months assisting Barr campaign. These are roughly his words: LP proper ceased to be of interest to the campaign once the nominee was chosen. (emphasis added)

    The actual quote was more along the lines of “LP proper ceased to be of interest to the media once the nominee was chosen.” In other words, the media stopped looking for quotes from LP headquarters and interviews with Bill Redpath, looking instead for quotes from Bob Barr and interviews with Bob Barr.

    I saw several other glaring factual mistakes during my initial reading of this several hours ago. Unfortunately, I’m on a tight schedule this weekend and don’t have the time to proofread for all such corrections (nor should I have to).

    Let me be clear: I am not criticizing Angela for her live-blogging. It’s really friggin’ tough to transcribe things as they are said and I know any mistake was unintentional. But I would ask that readers entertain the possibility that some things posted here may be misunderstandings/miscommunications caused by a transcription error.

    There’s always a trade-off between fast and accurate. LP members have had to wait weeks or months for super-accurate minutes from our Secretary. When Sean Haugh released LNC meeting reports a few terms ago, even those took a month to complete. It is refreshing to see instant gratification with live-blogging. Let’s not forget the trade-off though. Appreciate both and recognize their limitations: don’t demand accurate minutes instantly and don’t treat live-blogging as precision, fact-checked news reporting.

    For those of you actually at the LNC meeting who see errors here, please post them in comments and/or ask Angela to make corrections.

  9. Chuck, perhaps you can shed some additional light upon the LNC’s attempt to censure Angela today.

  10. Chuck, I’m drunk and back in action. (Got stoned with a staffer and a board member and then got drunk with a board member and someone else.)

    It is goddamn clear that it is merely me typing as quickly as I can. I have no lock on the truth. I said that several times. Get over it. There are 20 other people who have their versions. I am merely one. I speak for me and only me.

    Andrew has the light of Rand in his soul. Fuck the rest of you if you were never young and in objectivism. Don’t go after that boy. I was a supporter of the Contras when I young. Are you going to hold that against me?

    Andrew Davis, Austin Petersen are part of future. Be cool guys.

    Anyway, I told Haugh and Wrights how I carry Knapp, Hogarth and Sundwall’s voices in my head where I go.
    How Miller and Power give me so much light even though bisexuals are not like the others. We talked about Starchild the artist. He leads with every fairy wing. That’s a mind there.

  11. I vote against the cruise, but for Angela fondling Shinghal in the hot tub. Any hot tub. Mushrooms at her option.

  12. I’m surprised D.C. is in the lead, given that it’s, well, D.C. If they do choose to have it here, maybe I’ll go to represent the fine dues-paying Libertarians of the District — all six of us.

    And ya’ll can crash at my house.

  13. Also noticed the list rental thing comes up and Starr clamors for executive session. Is there something embarrassing about how the lists are rented? Aren’t the members of the LP generally on those lists? Which kind of makes the executive session approach wrong.

    Or is it that the list rental reveals to the renter how few members the LP has?

  14. Angela is one of my favorite anarchists!

    Used to be one of mine too.

  15. Tell Haugh that I’m thrilled to see my name listed as a candidate on Please ask him whether phase 2 of the project, which is to add a link to the candidate’s websites, can be completed before November. If that seems overly ambitious, it may be better to cancel the project, and instead put a link to Donnelly’s candidate list on the home page.

    That would be nice.

  16. I vote for the cruise ship!

    Me too. With depth charges.

  17. There’s always a trade-off between fast and accurate.

    Hense the reprehensibility of the motion to destroy recordings. I’m sure Chuck and I will agree on this.

  18. There’s always a trade-off between fast and accurate.

    Because the technology is unavailable to webcast them for those who are interested enough to watch yet for reasons of time or money unable to travel to the event.

  19. Fuck the rest of you if you were never young and in objectivism.

    Never been into “objectivism”.

  20. I was a supporter of the Contras when I young. Are you going to hold that against me?

    I was down there for part of that time. I saw what remained of some villages in the aftermath of fighting. I had visited one or two of the same villages beforehand and stayed in people’s homes. I saw some other things I am not at liberty to discuss.

  21. I’m surprised D.C. is in the lead, given that it’s, well, D.C. If they do choose to have it here, maybe I’ll go to represent the fine dues-paying Libertarians of the District — all six of us.

    Any effort underway to revive the District party?

    And ya’ll can crash at my house.

    Since floor space is likely to be limited, I call dibs.

  22. There have been some vague efforts at reviving LPDC, but I haven’t been involved since I don’t support this year’s ticket and don’t want to either compromise myself or just be a pain in the ass. So after November I’ll check in and see what’s going on. It was a pretty effective “state” affiliate under Carol Moore, but that was some time ago.

  23. Future postings in this series:

    Angela Keaton liveblogs from an Iowa slaughterhouse.
    AK liveblogs from a circus.
    AK liveblogs from a mental hospital.

  24. […] September 7, 2008 by ElfNinosMom This is Day Two of LNC member Angela Keaton’s liveblog of LNC meeting.  You can see Day One here. […]

  25. Jeff,

    “Angela Keaton liveblogs from an Iowa slaughterhouse.
    AK liveblogs from a circus.
    AK liveblogs from a mental hospital.”

    This will only come true if there is an LNC meeting in Des Moines.


  26. I think the cruise is pretty well off the table – several of us voiced some concerns. Several spoke of the costs associated with this type venue. (It’s high, $210/day if you share 2 to a room, BUT it is all-inclusive. So not horrendous, IF you would have been buying hotel, parking, food, etc.

    Horrific, if you would have sofa surfed . . .

    In addition, I pointed out that . . .

    1. It would be hard to get press coverage, especially from small outlets.

    2. No drop-ins from locals or press.

    3. And think about the number of libertarians we all know that either don’t have passports, and won’t get one; or have legal problems, and might not get back in. Seriously.

    It looks like Austin, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, and DC are on the short list. Don’t try to hold me to that one – it’s speculation. It is the perception of several LNC members that DC is popular amongst y’all. I like it, too. Today, Chuck Moulton suggested Philadelphia, PA. Also good, IMNHO – lots of patriotic stuff.


  27. I suggested Philadelphia for 2012.

  28. I vote for Austin (love those Texans!)

  29. Peter you live in DC? We really should be able to re-activate the DC party. We had two people eollecting signatures to get on the ballot as local candidates after all.

    Find me 9/12 atCATO at 4 for the Radley Balko “No Knock” event

  30. Tell us more about this Casey feller. Ooh la la!

  31. […] Representative Angela Keaton documented this decision at the September 6-7, 2008 LNC meeting Sullentrup moves to eliminate the policy that we video tape the meeting. […]

  32. […] Representative Angela Keaton documented this decision at the September 6-7, 2008 LNC meeting Sullentrup moves to eliminate the policy that we video tape the meeting. […]

  33. Amazing! This blog looks exactly like my old one! It’s on a totally different subject but it has pretty much the same layout and design. Wonderful choice of colors!

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