Steve G.

West Virginia Libertarian petition reportedly fails

In Green Party, Libertarian, Libertarian Party-US, Libertarian Politics, Politics on August 1, 2008 at 2:28 am

According to a field report by one of the Libertarian petitioners on the ground in West Virginia, as of tonight’s final turn-in of signatures by petitioners to the campaign, the LP gathered only around 12,000 raw signatures, falling short of the 15,118 required by state law. While additional signatures would be required to survive a challenge, the bare minimum required by law would have been enough if there was no challenge.

Richard Winger reports in Ballot Access News, “No other state is like Illinois, where even a petition with a number of signatures below the legal minimum is sufficient if no one challenges”.

If this field report is accurate, it would mean that Bob Barr can be on the ballot in at most 48 states, unless he wins his lawsuit in Oklahoma.

The Nader and Constitution Party petitions appear to have enough signatures, and the Green Party is on the ballot through its affiliate, the Mountain Party.

In another post at BAN, Richard Winger writes:

West Virginia and North Carolina are tied for having the nation’s second-highest presidential petition requirements (each requires a petition of 2% of the last vote in a presidential election year). Only Oklahoma is worse, at 3% of the last presidential vote.

Both the Libertarian and Constitution Parties are making a massive effort to finish their West Virginia petitions, which are due August 1. This newspaper story about the Libertarian petition says 40 to 50 circulators are working in the state. The story doesn’t feature the Constitution Party, but it also has many circulators in the state this week.

West Virginia was one of 4 states in which Ron Paul didn’t get on the ballot in 1988, when he was the Libertarian nominee. The Constitution Party has never been on the West Virginia ballot for president, but the party has more organizational strength now than it has ever had. In 2000, its presidential nominee, Howard Phillips, was only credited with 23 write-ins in West Virginia, but its 2004 presidential candidate, Michael Peroutka, was credited with 82 write-ins in West Virginia.

Nader did his West Virginia 2008 petition earlier in the year, collecting 30,000 signatures, double the requirement. The Green Party’s affiliate in West Virginia, the Mountain Party, has been ballot-qualified starting in 2000.

  1. Lawsuit in Oklahoma is unlikely to be successful. At least from where I’m sitting. Cripes, is there any particular reason they fell short, or was there a particular obstacle?

  2. I’m not surprised. Barr on 46 to 48 ballots . . . and for, as his adorers say “the best ever LP candidate”. What a laugh.

  3. Early moring bitch, er complaint, from the west coast. If the LP would put more effort into public relations during the off year maybe, just maybe, we would find that getting on the ballot and maintaing ballot access would be easier.

    Just a thought and I’d apprecaite reading what others have to say on this issue.

    MHW

  4. If the LP would put more effort into nominating libertarians rather than pigs, maybe, just maybe, they would find that getting on the ballot and maintaing ballot access would be easier.

  5. Third Party Watch is reporting that the Barr Camp claims success in WV. Ballot Access News is reporting court precedents on the unconstitutionality of early August deadlines.

  6. According to WSAZ.com in West Virginia:

    Organizers for the Bob Barr campaign for president plan to turn in petitions to the West Virginia Secretary of State Friday. The signatures are expected to surpass the 15,000 needed to gain ballot access in West Virginia.

    Organizers have been collecting signatures for the past couple weeks to get the Libertarian Party’s presidential candidate on the ballot.

    The Libertarian Party is expected to hold a press conference today after turning in the required signatures.

  7. Discussion at Turd Potty Watch:

    # Jonathan Says:
    August 1st, 2008 at 9:46 am

    From this web site that trashes Barr, the owner is a purist reports:

    West Virginia Libertarian petition reportedly fails

    August 1st, 2008 · 4 Comments
    According to a field report by one of the Libertarian petitioners on the ground in West Virginia, as of tonight’s final turn-in of signatures by petitioners to the campaign, the LP gathered only around 12,000 raw signatures, falling short of the 15,118 required by state law. While additional signatures would be required to survive a challenge, the bare minimum required by law would have been enough if there was no challenge.

    # Joey Dauben Says:
    August 1st, 2008 at 10:39 am

    And those guys had the nerve to attack me for supporting Wayne Allyn Root (because they always linked me to Dondero lol) and posting other news items on this site …Independent Political Report is a sham if they keep this “reporting” up.

    # Ed Li Says:
    August 1st, 2008 at 11:30 am

    The report clearly states “According to a field report by one of the Libertarian petitioners on the ground in West Virginia” – it does not state it as an absolutely known fact. It leaves open the possibility the petitioner was wrong, and that significant batches of signatures are still coming in this morning, for example.

    Likewise, the story here says “The signatures are expected to surpass the 15,000 needed to gain ballot access in West Virginia.” That also leaves open the possibility that results did not meet expectations.

    Neither Third Party Watch nor Independent Political Report posted anything inaccurate in this case.

  8. Why is this even an issue?

    Bob Barr and WAR were going to bring in $40 to $50 million. They promised.

    Why not just spend a small portion of that, say $150K, on ballot access in WV and end the worry once and for all?

    They’ve got all this new Republican money, plus legions of conservative right-wing Republicans attracted to the New Libertarian Party ™ — why not deploy those incredible new resources in an awesome show of electoral force?

    Gosh, looking at the situation, one would think they didn’t have all this stuff that they promised to bring in or something.

  9. The fault is not Wayne Root’s, it is Russell Verney’s and Shane Cory’s. (Barr takes some of the blame, since he hired them.) Of course, since Cory is worthless, he will try to blame WV’s failure on me, one single petitioner (with no authority to bring in extra petitioners, and none given). Cory was listening to the LP’s “agent provacateur” Eric Dondero, and thus ignored my advice in WV. WV thus failed to gain LP ballot access. It’s that simple.

    Details available at 907-250-5503.

    Jake Witmer

    BTW: I can shave enough of the cost off ballot access to put the LP on the ballot as a major party for 2010 and 2012. If anyone cares to fire the frauds at national and call me for this purpose, feel free.

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