Steve G.

George Phillies only third party Presidential candidate qualified for ballot so far by New Hampshire Secretary of State

In Libertarian on July 30, 2008 at 2:55 pm

From the New Hampshire Secretary of State:

Candidates Filing Declarations of Intent for the 2008 General Election

President of the United States

6/10/08 – “Bob” Barr (2256 Parkwood Place Court, Smyrna, GA 30080)
6/10/08 – George Phillies (48 Hancock Hill Drive, Worcester, MA 01609) QUALIFIED 7/30/08 – Libertarian
6/11/08 – “Chuck” Baldwin (7970 Sasser Lane, Pensacola, FL 32526)
6/12/08 – Yonyuth Hongsakaphadana (2204 Larson Drive, Danbury, CT 06810)
6/12/08 – Cynthia McKinney (P Box 311759, Atlanta, GA 31131-1759)
6/13/08 – Ralph Nader (PO Box 34103, Washington, DC 20043)

  1. That’s NH, not MA

  2. Yeah, I thought I was wrong when I saw ENM’s headline.

  3. OOPS, my mistake. I’ll fix that right now.

  4. What prevents the Libertarian nominee from using the Libertarian slot? I always understood that when you use a ‘straw candidate’ to get ballot access, he could turn the spot over to the rightful candidate when he was nominated?

    What gives?

  5. In New Hampshire, there are no candidate substitutions. George Phillies was chosen because at that time, he seemed the most likely nominee. Remember, Barr didn’t even formally declare his candidacy until about a week before the convention, so he really did this to himself.

    If Barr wants to be on the ballot in NH, he will have to do his own petitioning work to qualify.

  6. Most of which is already done.

  7. Just as an update, we had an LPMA State Committee meeting last night, where we counted the validated signatures that we’ve gotten back from the various cities and towns so far… We’ve gotten about 3/4 of the petitions back after certifying the sigs. I personally collected petitions from about 30 cities and towns, amounting to over 4,600 valid sigs.

    We have been getting a little better than expected validation rate, and as of last night, we had a little over 12,000 valid sigs in our possession. This is comfortably over the 10,000 sig minimum needed. We are still getting validated petitions back, and if we keep similar validation rates, will end up w/ about 15,000 in total.

    Next step is to turn them in to the Secretary of State and make it “official”, putting the Phillies / Bennet presidential ticket, and Robert Underwood for US Senate (vs. John Kerry) on the ballot.

    Incidentally, among the the places that have been collected in are the ones that Gary Fincher was the primary petitioner – accounting for more than 90% of the sigs in those towns. His validation rates were EXCELLENT, at or above the average rates for the rest of the state.

    ART
    LPMA Operations Facilitator
    Speaking mostly for myself

  8. Thanks for the field report ART…glad it is going well, although I was never in doubt.

  9. In New Hampshire, there are no candidate substitutions. George Phillies was chosen because at that time, he seemed the most likely nominee. Remember, Barr didn’t even formally declare his candidacy until about a week before the convention, so he really did this to himself.

    If Barr wants to be on the ballot in NH, he will have to do his own petitioning work to qualify.

    Well I hope, then, that the LPNH didn’t waste it’s money (or worse, money I contributed to the national party) putting the wrong candidate on the ballot. That’s not only wasteful, it’s destructive. I’m sure that there will be people who will vote for Phillies by accident, damaging us.

    I hope that the Free State Project can have some impact on election law in NH. That might be a good place to start.

  10. Phillies is already on the ballot. Barr will probably also be on the ballot, but that is not yet certain.

  11. The way petitioning works in NH, the only money being “wasted” is that being used to put BARR on the ballot… Putting George on did not cost ANY money beyond the microscopic costs of the ink to print his name on the petitions…

    Essentially NH has one sheet for each voter, listing candidates for any number of offices, from one to every single office the voter will see on the ballot.

    This does mean a painfully large number of trees must die to get on the ballot, and that nomination papers get highly customized for each small district, which makes it more of a challenge to petition, but it means the incremental cost of adding another candidate is essentially ZERO.

    Since the LPNH was going to circulate petitions for various statewide and local offices, it cost them NOTHING to put a presidential candidate’s name on the ballot. However LPNH wanted to start well before Denver in order to ensure that their LOCAL candidates got on – in past cycles they waited, and LNC dropped the ball, so that not only did they not get a Presidential candidate, they didn’t get any downticket candidates either….

    At the time they started, Barr was still hiding under his rock, and George looked like the best of the ANNOUNCED candidates, so he was placed in nomination at the LPNH state convention, KNOWING that this situation might occur – it was a gamble…

    If George got the nomination, he would be all set in NH, and saved a great deal of time and money for both LPNH and LNC… If George didn’t get the nomination, then whoever did would need to do their own drive to get on in NH – EXACTLY as anticipated…

    The only surprise is that Denver produced such a divisive nominee that many LPNH members have been asking George NOT to drop out, but rather to give them a choice other than Barr…

    I don’t know WHY this is so difficult for the Barr people to understand – it certainly has been explained often enough… I guess they are just a tad slow…

    ART

  12. Bob Barr has a big house, but the neighbors are a little too close for my tastes.

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