Steve G.

Barrett asks for Haugh resignation, Part Two: Haugh responds

In Libertarian, Libertarian Party-US, Politics on June 26, 2008 at 5:10 pm

What follows is an email from Sean Haugh to Kevin Barrett, and copied to others. This email was sent to me by LP Political Director Sean Haugh, in response to my inquiry regarding whether he wished to respond to Barrett’s press release. The email is reproduced here with the specific permission of Mr. Haugh. The only edits I have made is to reformat actual email addresses, to protect those persons from spam.

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Subject: Real Quotes from Kevin Barrett
From: “Sean Haugh”
Date: Sun, May 18, 2008 11:34 pm
To: “Kevin Barrett”
Cc: “Jim Sewell”
“Rolf Lindgren”
“Randy Palmer”
dhendrickson3 at wi.rr.com
“‘Mike Mckenna'”
theonelaw at wi.rr.com
“‘John Gatewood'”
“‘Markus Rostig'”
“‘Tim Peterson'”
“Jason Walker”
“Chris Gioffre”
“Terry Gray”
“Terry Gray”
“Tom Ender”
“Ben Masel”
aulibertarians at aol.com
jamaas2001 at yahoo.com
“Adam Dick”
“Corey Scholtka”
“JULIE FOX”
“Linda Sturtzen”
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Real quotes from Kevin Barrett:

“As a rational person who is not a specialist in the subject of WWII, but who has studied the history of Zionist Big Lies vis-a-vis Palestine, I cannot possibly dismiss the arguments of people like Green, Irving, and even Zundel. And even if the 6-million-deliberately-murdered-for-purely-ethnic-reasons figure is correct — which it very well may be; I have grown agnostic on that after studying the Big Lies of Zionism — I would still have to characterize the Holocaust as it is taught in the US as a hideously destructive myth.”

source: Dylan Avery, director of “Loose Change”
reference:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3620&st=0
Sean’s note: Mark Green, David Irving and Ernst Zundel are three of the most vociferous holocaust deniers.

*

“In fact I may be the only Muslim on earth who does NOT question the basic facts of the standard Western holocaust narrative. But I think the other 1,499,999 Muslims have excellent reasons (from their perspective) for questioning it–yet those reasons, and the Muslim-majority perspective on just about everything, are systematically blacked out and/or lied about in American media and academia. That pisses me off enough that when an asshole like Rabinowitz won’t stop bashing me with his anti-Muslim bigotry, I’m happy to throw the other side’s argument in his face just to pull his chain.”

source: Dylan Avery
reference:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?s=d51e71a4179ddda03dea07c4a70f24b6&showtopic=3620&st=20

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“As the example of Nuremberg suggests, journalists who act as propagandists for war crimes may one day find themselves on the scaffold. You would be well advised to strive for more balanced and accurate coverage in the future.”

source: Kevin Barrett
reference: letters to the editor, The Capitol Times, August 11, 2007

*

“The Capital Times ownership and editorial decision-makers, like those of other mainstream U.S. news outlets, are setting themselves up to be prosecuted as war criminals. By publishing the endless stream of lies that brought us into the Iraqi and Afghan quagmires, without exercising duly diligent skepticism, journalistic decision-makers are following in the footsteps of Joseph Goebbels — a path that ends at the scaffold.”

source: Kevin Barrett, in another letter to the editor, The Capitol Times
reference: http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2008/03/kevin-barrett.html

*

“Flight 93 is a Goebbels style propaganda flick designed to incite war crimes. The people who made it should be put on trial.”

source: Kevin Barrett’s radio show, 12/23/06
reference:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/12/kevin-barrett-calls-for-trial-of.html

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“O’Reilly doesn’t like that, and neither does the other guys at Fox News. In fact they’re feeling pretty threatened right now and I would be too if I was in their shoes because they’re setting themselves up for complicity in high treason and mass murder charges. When this thing hits the fan, the leadership in our nation’s corporate media may just end up dangling from the end of a rope.”

source: Jim Fetzer’s radio show, October 2006
reference:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/10/kevin-barrett-threatens-violence.html

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“If you are not aware that you’re covering up for that traitor and mass murderer and yes insurance fraudster Silverstein, you’ll figure it out when you’re beside him on the scaffold. I’ll be saving this email as evidence for your trial.”

source: Mark Roberts
reference:
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/semiliterateparanoiacswhofantasizeaboutt

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“By blinding people to the need to take the only effective action, [Noam Chomsky] is bringing on disaster. If he convinces even one person to do something other than work for 9/11 truth, he may as well have personally murdered all 6 billion people on earth.”

source: Kevin Barrett
reference: http://911blogger.com/node/12772

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“Amy [Goodman], you will one day find yourself on the scaffold, condemned to hang alongside the other Goebbels-style traitors and mass-murder-coverup-conspirators from the corporate media you pretend to criticize… I stand by the opinion that the support Amy Goodman has given to the worst blood libel in human history, and her ensuing participation in the murder of over a million people in Iraq, Afghanistan and the USA, constitutes complicity in high treason, mass murder, war crimes, and other crimes against humanity.”

[follow-up: In his “apology” to Goodman, Barrett rephrases his sentiments:]

“I stand by the opinion that the support Amy Goodman has given to the worst blood libel in human history, and her ensuing participation in the murder of over a million people in Iraq, Afghanistan and the USA, constitutes complicity in high treason, mass murder, war crimes, and other crimes against humanity. I still expect that one day she and a great many other American media decision-makers will be charged with these crimes and put on trial at a new Nuremburg.”

source: Kevin Barrett
references: http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2008/03/kevin-barrett.html
http://www.mujca.com/amy.htm

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“The State Department doesn’t know what it is talking about, but what else is new? Frankly I wonder who wrote this for the State Department. We need to find out because they are going to have to go up there on the scaffold with the other people who planned the attacks and more importantly the people who covered them up. The people complicit in the attacks need to be tried, condemned and sentenced.”

source: Kevin Barrett’s radio show, June 12, 2007
reference:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-on-kevin-hang-em-all-barrett.html

*

“As I understand it, the usual penalty for treason is hanging, not death by firing squad. In that case, it is likely that Mr. Bush will be hanged, not shot, for treason. By making this prediction, am I running the risk of
having my clothesline confiscated? I also think that there is a real possibility that Mr. Bush will be electrocuted for the mass murder of 2,500 Americans in the World Trade Center. By stating this, am I risking a court order shutting off my electricity? I also foresee a small but very real possibility that Mr. Bush will die in the gas chamber. Does raising this possibility mean that my gas could be cut off?

“I appreciate the difficulty you guys must be having doing your job right now, with tens of millions of Americans calling for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and company to be prosecuted and (presumably) executed for 9/11 high treason. With almost half the country believing the official 9/11 story is a cover-up (Zogby poll, May 2006) it won’t be long before an overwhelming majority of Americans joins Mr. Cook in eagerly anticipating Bush’s execution–which will put you fellas in a difficult position. Maybe it’s time to save the country a lot of heartache, and rat out whoever it was in the SS who kept Bush at that school in Florida long after the second plane hit the building.”

source: Kevin Barrett, email to Mike Mikalsen
refrence: http://www.dailytakes.com/?p=825

*

[Sean talking now:] There’s more where that came from. Note that even prominent people within the 9/11 Truth movement itself are reporting these quotes and claiming that Barrett discredits their efforts. From the
references you can also see that there’s a community of people out there who are watching and listening to Barrett’s every word. When he says this junk in the future as a Libertarian candidate, every one of these people will have reason to link these noxious sentiments to our party.

Setting all that aside, why would you want to support a candidate that blithely lies to all of you?

Let us be clear: When Barrett says he has never threatened anyone with execution, that’s a bald-faced lie. He consistently wishes for it and pledges to take action to bring it about. When Barrett says he has never
expressed support for holocaust deniers, that’s another big fat lie. He thinks people have “excellent reasons” for denying the holocaust.

Kevin, I welcome your threatened legal action. Make sure your lawyer reads this email before taking your case.

yours in liberty –
Sean Haugh
Political Director, Libertarian Party

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  2. “Flight 93 is a Goebbels style propaganda flick designed to incite war crimes. The people who made it should be put on trial.”

    WOW, that’s a real whopper. Good thing we’re paying Haugh to dig stuff like that up.

    As for the others, in none of these “quotes” does Barrett deny the Holocaust. Most of them have nothing to do with it. None that touch on the subject have a legitimate source.

    Anyone can post a “quote” on the Internet and attribute it to someone else. Haugh is actually using “quotes” posted by people with psuedo-names in blog comment sections. Not very authoritative and very sloppy.

    It’s beyond stupid to think that someone who compares Bush to Hitler is Holocaust denier:

    UW Instructor Compares Bush to Hitler
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/11/AR2006101100292.html

    Someone named “Mark Green” is even mentioned in this article.

    Haugh is a disgrace to the Libertarian Party and needs to go.

  3. First off I would agree with those who say that Barrett sounds like a nutcase in some regards. He certainly sounds like a walking violation of “Goodwin’s Law” concering the introduction of 1940’s German historical figures into political debate…

    Doesn’t sound like a job for Sean Haugh to deal with however, and I think that it is the job of LPWI to handle him, mostly by saying “he’s a nutcase and he won’t go away…” and otherwise ignoring him. Acknowledging him more than that gives Barrett “official recognition”

    I think Barrett is doing FAR LESS harm to the LP as a non-recognized minor flake than the officially recognized homophobic, drug-warring, foreign-interventionist, religious bigot that got our OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION… Barrett we can blow off as a nutcase that used us, but how do you defend against Barr?

    However I also have to say that sometimes I wonder about the Holocaust claims BECAUSE of all the efforts to bury the “deniers” – I can’t think of a single other area of controversy where there is so much energy put into attacking the messengers and hiding the message…

    Whether it be Evolution, 9/11, or the Flat Earther’s – there is easy to find material on both sides, with point by point argument and counter argument…

    With the Holocaust, as soon as any slightest question is raised, the questioner is immediately slammed as a nutcase / anti-semite, and dismissed with out any obvious effort to examine and refute whatever evidence the questioner might have. WHY? If the evidence is as solid and unshakeable as it is presented as being; how come nobody seems willing to duke it out in the “marketplace of ideas” and do the point by point… Should be no harder to blow the denier’s claims away than it is that of the Flat Earth types – Unless…. Perhaps… (whisper…) there’s something there???

    I haven’t looked behind that curtain, and I don’t plan to, as I have plenty else to keep me busy, but sometimes the unwillingness to admit the curtain is there bothers me a bit…

    ART
    (Speaking ONLY for myself…)

  4. Art is right.

    I’d only echo his comments (including noting the PROPER procedure for national to “deal with him” is for the LNC to issue a statement or a voted-upon resolution directing Haugh or others into action).

    I also wish that the national office would invest these sorts of resources into challenging homophobia and racism in LP members who are seeking political office. The quotes in question are no more horrifying than those written by Ron Paul in his “political report,” or uttered by any number of other LP-affiliated individuals about Jews, black people, Hispanics, and gay folks. I still don’t understand why this gent is being singled out for special condemnation, when so many others in the LP share similarly contemptible views.

  5. Barrett is a nut case, all right: For thinking Social Security is a great program. THAT is the nuttiest thing I’ve ever heard. Second only to the notion that Ron Paul actually wrote the questionable newsletters.

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  7. Quoth GE:

    “Second only to the notion that Ron Paul actually wrote the questionable newsletters.”

    John Ker … er, Ron Paul … CLAIMED to have written the questionable newsletters (before he denied doing so). Paul DEFENDED THE CONTENT of those newsletters (before denouncing it). I guess we can add “nut” to “liar” on his resume.

  8. >>I think Barrett is doing FAR LESS harm to the LP as a non-recognized minor flake than the officially recognized homophobic, drug-warring, foreign-interventionist, religious bigot that got our OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION…

    That’s called a false dichotomy. You can deal with each of them as a single issue. This kind of statement serves only one person, and if you think for less than 30 sec you can figure out who that is.

    Barrett is beyond a “nutcase”, unfortunately.

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