Steve G.

LP Drama!

In Libertarian, Libertarian Party-US, Politics, Wayne Allen Root on April 29, 2008 at 11:24 pm

There has been lots of LP Drama of late. It seems that some of the candidates must be threatened by Dr. Mary Ruwart, as they have accused her of supporting kiddie porn. I have found that the recent series of events are best summed up over at

Dr. Ruwart’s campaign has issued a press release which is posted at Third Party Watch – people are fiery and passionate about these accusations and the way in which LP HQ has handled this. Ian Bernard, host of podcast show Free Talk Live has officially stated that this is the last straw, he is leaving the LP.

I personally wish that Ian would not leave, as we need more people like him. I would be going to Denver, if something serious didn’t recently occur in my life. I think it’s important to try to save the “Party of Principle”. For a while, I was on the fence about who I supported, now I know who my candidate is. I am proud to say that I support Mary Ruwart for President of the United States of America. Because of her, my best friend converted to libertarian thoughts and ideas. All it took was loaning out the book “Healing Our World”. I believe that Mary will make the tent bigger, and bring the party back to it’s true roots.

If Wayne Allen Root is attacking her by using the usual tactics that we have come to expect from the Demopublicans then it is a sure sign that she must be good, and her enemies must grasp at straws to sully her good name.

I think this quote from Albert Einstein sums the whole scenario up quite well:

Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly. (quoted in New York Times, March 13, 1940)

  1. Being a libertarian party member use to be exciting. Now, not so much. The recent drama is just the latest reason I wonder what the hell I’m fighting for. I’ve seen LP “drama” at the local level now for 4 years, with each passing day getting worse.

    I don’t get all the infighting at all. Some people get off on it (“GE” for example). I find it all counter productive.

    Stop the bullshit and focus on the task at hand. I think libertarians have lost their way a bit.

  2. Jason,
    I hear ya. I hope that all of this internal posturing and bickering can be pushed aside for more important matters. I do feel that it is important to call out the instigators though.

  3. I’m also leaving the LP. Post coming this weekend about my rationale.

  4. Nigel,
    It certainly makes me sad that you are leaving the LP. They need all the good people they can get.

  5. I don’t plan on turning in my “card” anytime soon, but I have distanced myself from the local group. I use to serve on the EC and now I refuse to go to meetings. I still go out every weekend with handouts and trying to spread the message. I’ve even gathered a group of people for our own “meeting”, instead of going to a typical local LP meeting. I’m doing what I can outside the rules of our local party to actually attempt to get people excited about libertarianism.

    Our local party is nothing more than a monthly social club where our “leaders” get together, gorge themselves on pancakes at IHOP and then head to the bar to “discuss” politics over several pints of beer. Then they do nothing for a month and repeat the same thing one day the next month.

  6. I think the problem is that the LP has forgotten that without loyal members, they are nothing. I expect this split within the party (which I think was there all along, but was just not quite so obvious until now) to come to a head at the convention in Denver.

    I have no problem with anyone leaving the LP; instead I assume they know what is best for them. What would really bother me is if people were leaving the libertarian movement altogether, as opposed to just leaving the party. After all, most libertarians are not members of the LP anyway.

    By the way, great topics, TiGirl, and I’m sure we’re all thrilled to have you back! 🙂

  7. Thanks ElfNinosMom & Jason, I salute your efforts and understand your thoughts. Nigel, I hope you still work to promote freedom despite leaving the LP. Keep the philosophy alive by your personal deeds and actions.

  8. I don’t “get off on it,” Gatties. I don’t know why you insist on slandering me all over the Web. I’m outraged over LPHQ’s treatment of Mary Ruwart. That doesn’t mean I “get off” on the drama. I wish there were no drama.

  9. I get why you are upset. I just feel there are other ways to go about it. You have the right to speak your mind, but I stick by my statement that this is all very counter productive. I’ve said the same to Wes about a month ago at TPW.

    Stating my opinion is hardly slander. I’ve been called far worse in forums over the past 10 years, even here at LFV.

    I apologize for what I said, but I stand by my reasoning. Much like I feel about you, I could have approached it in a different manner.

  10. Hi TG, glad to see you (and GE, Chris, et al) back!

    I like Mary a lot, although my first round vote still goes to Steve Kubby.

    LP drama is kind of like a crack pipe; not very good for you, but hard to put down.

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