Steve G.

LNC Smackdown!

In Libertarian, Politics, Humor, George Phillies, Libertarian Politics 2008, Libertarian Party-US, Crazy Claims, Shine on you crazy diamond, Entertainment, Presidential Candidates on August 23, 2008 at 2:03 am

Sorry, couldn’t resist that headline after LNC Treasurer Aaron Starr (in LFV comments) made a reference to libertarian “bloodsports”. ;-)

The following are comments left on the latest LFV exclusive regarding George Phillies having been contacted by an outside attorney, about a potential lawsuit brewing for New Hampshire.

Aaron Starr, LNC Treasurer:

This might be interesting if it were accurate.

However, the LNC has been informed on more than one occasion concerning the potential opportunity for a lawsuit in New Hampshire to establish for our party the permanent right for candidate substitution, so that we will not have this problem again in the future.

No lawsuit has been filed yet.

On May 22nd, during the LNC pre-convention meeting in Denver, staff presented in its report the possibility of our needing to sue in New Hampshire.

The report is included in the minutes. Members of the LNC board members who are purported to not know anything about this received copies of these minutes and voted for their approval.

In addition, in a cursory search of e-mails to the entire LNC, I was able to find a ballot access update dated June 29th that further discussed the legal situation in New Hampshire. There are probably other updates, should I care to look for them.

In the case of Bill Hall, our legal counsel, the LNC has been updated by him as recently as today as to the status of this potential litigation. Of course, attorney-client privilege issues prevent me from sharing the contents of this communique with anyone else.

Aaron Starr
Treasurer
Libertarian National Committee

Professor George Phillies, qualified NH LP presidential candidate and probable defendant in said not-yet-filed lawsuit:

Starr’s claims about the suit are disingenuous. There are indeed representations in the LNC Minutes and other places about discussing litigation as a possible alternative path in New Hampshire. There is no indication that an attorney had been retained or was going to be retained.

That’s entirely different from having an attorney, not Bill Hall, telephone interested parties to make statements rather more positive than discussing alternatives.

As an analogy, as late as 1936 the War Department updated its plans for war with Canada, a fact that Congress could have determined. South Park notwithstanding, telling Congress this minor fact did not constitute asking Congress to approve war with Canada.

There is no representation in those statements to the LNC about actually spending money to pay the attorney in question, seeking the LNC’s approval to spend money or discuss litigation with interested parties, or having the attorney discuss with affected parties while representing himself as the LNC’s attorney, which he assuredly would not have done if he had not been retained, whether for pay or pro bono.

I should point out that the sort of phone call that I heard might or might not already have led other interested parties to retain their own counsel.

As to whether the LNC is paying him for something, well, the most recent LNC FEC filing shows a large sum of money going in his direction, so there is no question that the LNC has already actually spent money, without notifying the LNC itself that that money is actually being spent.

Angela Keaton, LNC At-Large Representative:

A.) What is the proper LNC procedure in the initiation of a lawsuit? Does a mention of the possibility of such in a staff report released between LNC meetings constitute proper notice to the board? Do Haugh and Kraus have the authority to initiate a law suit without putting it to a vote of the entire LNC? If Redpath has the sole authority, what is the fiduciary duty with regard to financial priorities during severe shortfalls?

B.) Is the suit a political payback stemming from a confrontation between Carling/Karlan/Sundwall and Macia and Phillies/McMahon at the LPNY ‘07 convention? Did that confrontation result as of Carling overstepping what was agreed upon by members of the LNC? Is it a relevant fact that M Carling proposed to strip George Phillies of his life membership at the July ‘07 LNC meeting? Is it a relevant fact that Aaron Starr proposed an affiliate agreement which singled out LPNH for a daunting level of control by the LNC? (Starr lated withdrew after I made the case that it would lead to infighting and bitterness. Who knew?) What does the ExCom of LPNH want?

C.) What is the responsibility of the Barr/Root campaign for handling ballot access? Is it a mis characterization to state that LPNH has no ballot access when the drop dead date was August 6th and the signature validity is known? A mis characterization that there is no LP ballot access if Phillies/Bennett ticket has made the ballot? Does it matter if both are on the ballot? Does it make any difference who is on the ballot as long as the libertarian label is on it?

Get back to me via email (angela at angelakeaton com) if any of you have serious answers so I don’t have to wade through this most worthless thread.

Angela Keaton
At Large Rep
Libertarian National Committee

I have to respectfully disagree with Ms. Keaton. The thread covered everything any redblooded libertarian could ever want to discuss …. from whether state parties overrule the national party on ballot access issues, to whether a qualified candidate must bow out for the nominee in a state which does not allow substitution, to necrophiliac fellatio, and everything in between. We even had self-described “Libertarian Republican” Eric Dondero calling out to his preferred diety, during a profanity-filled rant in which he threatened to come through the computer and rip LFV Contributor GE Smith’s head off. Now, ripping off heads is what I call a “bloodsport”, though of course making threats on LFV is never, ever acceptable, nor is it ever tolerated.

What do you think, folks? Anyone want to have a little weekend fun, and lay some bets on any of the players? Starr vs Phillies? Keaton vs Starr? Hogarth vs Phillies? Dondero vs GE? ElfNinosMom vs Dondero? Place your bets here!

  1. Although she’s not technically inside the ring, Hogarth’s analysis will win.

  2. Improbable tag team extravaganza:

    G.E. & George Phillies vs. Eric Dondero & Susan Hogarth

  3. Sorry to switch venues on you, but:

    Aaron Starr will get disqualified for performance-enhancing drugs, although he’ll deny any knowledge of taking them. Must have been Vitamin M.

    Angela Keaton will win the Tonya Harding plus the Nancy Kerrigan awards. Nice pair of skaters!

    Phillies will take the Jamaican bobsled honorable mention.

    G.E. brings good things to light, but prematurely burns out in the qualifiers and is not medal material.

    Dondero is a has-been steroid-injecting East German woman and nobody’s into steroid injecting East German women anymore, other than Dondero.

    ElfninosMom is a reporter, not a player. Get out of the game.

    ElfninosMom, the reporter, forgot Robert Milnes, who was disqualified for being 14 and underage.

  4. Eric Dondero! LOL! …The man with all the facts! (And when I say all the facts I mean ALL of them! …Even the ones that are imaginary and directly contradict reality. …Especially the ones that are imaginary and directly contradict reality…)

    But seriously, I want you all to stop picking on Eric. He is a misunderstood comic genius! Nobody could contradict themselves that often, that continuously, putting self-contradiction over even gainful libertarian employment with Ron Paul, without being consciously dedicated to it!

    Eric Dondero is as dedicated to portraying the demented persona of a delusional “Reblublican”, as Andy Kaufman was to portraying a “serious” woman wrestler.

    …Dondero’s life is a genius portrayal of a stereotype so overblown that it is near incomprehensible to any sane person. He is a charicature of Elmer Fudd and Adolph Hitler, seriously spouting social darwinism and survival of the fittest (scratch that, “most violent”, not “fittest” as “the fittest” in thinking human terms has nothing to do with Dondero) as viable alternatives to the rule of law.

    The genius of Dondero is that …he CAN’T be serious!

    Even though I saw his face contort with rage when the LP was offered free airtime by that “leftist” radio host in Houston, and watched him push back his steak dinner, and storm out of the place, I now realize he must have been laughing inside!

    Noone could call themselves a libertarian and be such a simple tantrum-throwing fool!

    LOL!

    Eric may have the rest of you stumped, but I recognize him for the genius he is!

    I mean, come on, guys! The things Dondero says make as much sense —in context— as the flying saucer scene in Monty Python’s “Life Of Brian”. …ROTFLOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_VVVTmiWFo

  5. Wes/GE:

    Thank you. My life is now richer by far than it was before.

  6. I loved GE’s “improbable tag team extravaganza”; now, that’s what I call getting into the spirit of things! LOL

    Jake: Gotta love the pig! And I really liked Porky, too! ;-)

    Wes: You need to follow the matches more closely if you want to win! See, I didn’t want to play (and as you’ve likely noticed by now, I rarely do) but then I was forced into the ring when Dondero threatened GE. I threatened him back with revoking his posting privileges if he didn’t behave, and the ball is back in his court now. Will he finally behave? Will he threaten someone again? Or will that throbbing vein in his forehead finally explode? Stay tuned!

  7. “As an analogy, as late as 1936 the War Department updated its plans for war with Canada, a fact that Congress could have determined. South Park notwithstanding, telling Congress this minor fact did not constitute asking Congress to approve war with Canada.”

    Kooky.

    I’ve been in and out of LFV recently. When did Dondero threaten GE?

  8. never mind. Just found it. I think if we all team up on Dondero all will work out fine. Or just ignore him, like we do with Milnes.

  9. Gimme Sean Morely, Glen Jacobs, and Angela in an 8-person elimination tag match against the stooges and Dondero.

    Angela gets the pinfalls after she bitch-slaps them silly, except for Starr, who submits to a STFU…

  10. Further quote from AK

    “133 Angela Keaton

    RESOVLED:

    1.Richard Winger’s activism puts him on the side of the angels.

    2.Susan Hogarth’s commitment to libertarianism is above reproach.

    3.Neither Starchild or Michelle Shinghal have any cellulite.

    4.Colt Peanut is a gutless racist.

    5.Sean Haugh is very serious about his job.”

    I disrespectfully disagree with resolution #5.

    Burn baby burn…disco inferno!

    “Dude, you are so fired”

    -SH

  11. But, hey, at a minimum the first three are correct, and the welfare queen BS is prima facie evidence for point 4.

  12. And #5 was sarcasm, people.

  13. Au contraire. Apparently, she believes I owe Sean Haugh an apology, among other things. She is apparently quite serious, since she has asked me not to contact her, removed me as moderator of the antiwar yahoo group (which I agreed to do solely as a favor to her), removed me as a facebook friend, etc.

    Sean Haugh actually said this to a libertarian activist:
    “You are so fired, dude.”

    It reminded me of the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland trying to figure out how to cut off the Cheshire Cat’s head, when all he is is a free floating head.

  14. This drama is ridiculous.

  15. “Serious about” and “competent at” are two entirely different evaluations.

    I agree 100% that Sean is “serious about” his job. As a matter of fact, I’d cite that seriousness — creeping over the line into obsession with the idea that his personal conflicts with or feelings about others should be both major decisionmaking criteria in, and reasons for increasing the scope of, the job — as a major negative impact on his competence at it.

  16. The national Libertarian Party has been defending and encouraging substitution ever since 1993. It was because we were able to persuade most states to permit presidential substitution (during the period 1993-1995), that we were able to move our presidential conventions from Labor Day of the odd year before the election year, to late spring or early summer of the election year itself.

    New Hampshire was just about the only state to say “No” to substitution in the 1990’s, but it didn’t hurt us because we were a qualified party. But we lost our qualified status in November 1996 and New Hampshire rigidity has been hurting us ever since. We are in court over substitution in Massachusetts and Pennsylvania (Massachusetts reneged on allowing substitution), and it makes sense we finally do something about New Hampshire as well.

  17. Sean Haugh actually said this to a libertarian activist:
    “You are so fired, dude.”

    Too bad the eunuch Bill Redpath can’t get the tampon out of his ass long enough to fire Haugh and then resign.

    Hell, maybe Haugh should be made chair. He couldn’t be worse than Redpath and he has shown that he’s not afraid to fire people (even if he does so for the wrong reasons).

  18. Of course, Redpath is busy… running a senate campaign advocating sensible “reforms” supported by the Stato Institute. Maybe he should focus on the job he was elected to do.

  19. “Hell, maybe Haugh should be made chair. He couldn’t be worse than Redpath ”

    This really isn’t fair if you think about it, G.E. Redpath is capable of forming complete sentences, and almost never loses his temper, and starts panicking and throwing a tantrum (Sean does these things in virtually every business day). The worst that can really be said of Redpath is that he was worried that firing several criminals on the LP staff and challenging the ones on Barr’s staff would be too difficult an undertaking to undergo in the middle of a ballot access cycle.

    If he still refuses to clean house after Nov 4, 2008, then we can demand his resignation, but I would think it is a bit premature prior to then. After all, Bill did good work in 2004 as ballot access chair.

    Haugh recently stated that Eric Dondero was a great libertarian activist. I guess that would be in spite of the fact that he told Shane Cory I was “not a good coordinator”, and that I “shouldn’t be allowed to coordinate in WV” (even though I was on my way out there.) Alarm bells started going off when Shane told me that Eric had recommended me as a petitioner, but stupidly, I followed the little trap that had been set for me.

    Oh well, live and learn.

    Interestingly, the result of not allowing me to help coordinate things in West Virginia was to have West Virginia to fail to attain ballot access (which would then be blamed on me, even though, according to them I was “only a petitioner”. Well, if this is true, I’m blameless for the failure of WV, since there were 19 days left on the drive when I got there, and I did 1,660 signatures, and encouraged the other third parties to also collect signatures for us (in spite of Shane Cory doing everything possible to prevent that, having taken Eric’s advice that “they don’t want to help us, …just hire locals”).

    (Eric has never been a petition drive coordinator, because he is a ranting lunatic and can’t handle authority of any kind.)

    Oh, by the way, I was a petition drive coordinator for Ron Paul’s paid petitioning effort in IL in Nov-Dec, 2007. I was rehired by his campaign to help out in Indiana in January, 2008.

    …But Eric Dondickhead is right, as is his friend Sean Haugh: “I’m just a petitioner, and shouldn’t be hired as a coordinator.”

    Oh wait, Anthony Garcia of the Texas LP also stated that I should consider petition drive coordination, after I hired people in TX who gathered 10,000 signatures, WHILE I was personally out petitioning as well, and totalled ~8,000+ signatures myself (beating Dondickhead’s production into the ground, even with the hour long commute from his home in Angleton, where he had donated a nice dog-piss-stained room for me to stay in).

    To hell with Eric Dondero. He betrays everyone he deals with.

    I can’t wait until Sean Haugh gets firsthand knowledge of this, since it’s happened to everyone who defends dondero.
    My guess is that since he’s “made his bed”, he’ll sleep in it.

    Sean Haugh, Shane Cory, Eric Dondero, Scott Kohlhaas, Russel Verney = loose cannons with hot tempers incapable of civil behavior and long term honesty. …Thanks for nothing, guys.

    By the way, pay me the $3,106.77 I’m owed, or get sued.

    Sincerely,

    -Jake

  20. By the way, Jake: I just want you to know that we chose not to cover your story on IPR because we all realized there’s no point. There’s literally nothing Redpath and Haugh could do that would provoke any level of outrage from the people who have supported them up to this point. Anyone who continues to support Redpath/Haugh is scum in my eyes. And yes, that includes EVERYONE whosoever fits the bill.

  21. “There’s literally nothing Redpath and Haugh could do that would provoke any level of outrage from the people who have supported them up to this point. ”

    Well, “provoking outrage” isn’t the only purpose of covering a story. The dissemination of information is also a valid goal.

    Also, even if provoking outrage is your only goal, I’m not sure your statement is true. “Nothing” covers a lot of territory. When Barret wins his primary next week for instance, we can predict that Sean Haugh is going to say something brash and irresponsible (if he opens his mouth, that is).

    Moreover, there are those who may come to see that their own self-interest is threatened by continuing to allow criminal behavior in the ranks of the LP, and there may be people who occasionally skim through these articles, without really understanding much of what they read. Let’s face it, if I had never become a petitioner/activist/”coordinator!”, then I perhaps would have almost no understanding of what was going on. Even after Scott had defrauded the NE petitioners, I thought that Bill Redpath’s efforts to make good to them were very nearly satisfactory, if not fully satisfactory.

    But being put into the situation myself, suddenly my opinion changes. When you are deprived of the interest on your money, and suddenly you see what would have been profit and investment turned into mindless treading of water, used to pay late fees, etc… You cannot help but gain a newfound sympathy for those who have been taken advantage of, BECAUSE they were libertarians.

    I think that the greatest outrage in this whole situation is the slander of the LP’s best activists, and the waste of their abilities. The activists who really cared about the future of the LP sat idle and unused by Haugh and Kohlhaas, out of simple spite. They sat in Alabama while all of these “really close drives” were going on. (While all the while Eric slanders and lies about them, calling them “leftists” and “anarchists” because it feels so good for him to be on the side of those issuing the paychecks and doing the screwing.)

    Now that Haugh, Kolhaas, Verney, and Cory have all decided they’d like to be on the Republicrat bandwagon with Dondero, it will be interesting to see if their abandonment of their ideals is party-wide. Sarah Palin might not be libertarian, but she is actually an honest person who pumps her own damned gas, and is fully capable of shooting her own food.

    I imagine that the new, unprincipled version of the LP will lose a lot of support to a Palin/Pray-for-heart-attack ticket this fall.

    In such a climate, all prior sins are tallied, and given their full measure of consideration.

    It will be interesting to see what history says of Russell Verney, a man so small he will command a large paycheck for the “virtue” of having once been given a large sum of money from Ross Perot. He was personally responsible for the abject failure of Cory in West Virginia. When he finally called me up, his “taking charge of the situation” was to attempt to further defer to Cory’s incompetence by demanding a daily turn in in West Virginia, so that he could cut his losses (and my payment, and the chances of success in WV, even further) and run. Not to mention the fact that
    1) Cory had proven himself completely irrational to that point, and that a “daily turn in” of signatures would simply have dramatically reduced my ability to collect signatures, as well of had me burn more gas that they had promised to pay, yet had not paid.
    2) Not to mention the fact that it was irrelevant anyway, since Cory failing was a foregone conclusion after 1.5 weeks of the drive, since he failed miserably to import enough workers to finish the job, in spite of the fact that there were plenty of professional workers sitting idle, all across America.

    So the ultimate verdict? Shoot the messenger, because he cares enough to speak up.

    The LP has rewarded gross incompetence, and I think that the more places this fact is known, the greater chance that the criminals responsible will not be able to take credit for random forces of nature, and the competence of others. After all, what if Barr winds up with 2,000,000 votes in November?

    A Barr success would be a great credit to Barr’s youtube and web guys (Martin Avila, I believe), and it would have absolutely nothing to do with Verney/Cory fraud-enablement team. That people skimming through these pages find this message (and my phone number 907-250-5503) is important.

    As we speak, I am talking to several lawyers who intend to sue the campaign. Even if the check is in the mail, it can’t really be prevented at this point, because they have knowingly cost me so much in further financial damages, and in open violation of their contract. After 1 month of being owed payment that was supposed to be prompt and via wire transfer, in order to cover travel expenses, the damage has been done to my finances. I have made nothing.

    The fact that these salaried jerks wish me to make less than nothing speaks a lot about their vindictive characters.

    It is now a slow legal process of wasting the Barr campaign’s money and time, since they are not smart enough to take responsibility for their obligations. I’ve seen how much money Cory and Verney are getting paid, simply because they stood up and asked for promotion (vastly beyond their level of competence, whatever that is).

    …And even if this message is ignored, it amuses me to know that there is now one more piece of the puzzle on the net.

    With enough pieces of the picture available on the net, even those walking by and giving a casual glance will have not choice but to take in the sight, and wonder why it isn’t the pretty picture they imagined.

    And of course, this will serve as a document for people who wish to establish competing political parties. It will also serve as a warning when Kohlhaas, Verney, Cory, and Haugh’s chickens finally come home to roost. Those who took such delight in firing their critics and hiding behind political titles will not be hired by those wishing to prevent the decline of their political parties in a similar manner.

    Right now, the Constitution Party is open, honest, and transparent. (The way that Bill Redpath behaved in 2004.) They don’t talk down to their petitioners/activists, and work with them with a minimum of ego, bluster, and bloated self-righteousness. Alison Potter is a good example of a petition coordinator who understands politely working with people who want to help you and can. Anytime an obstacle arose, she was more than willing to find a simple solution.

    Far from the ranting micromanagement, barked orders and condescending derision of Shane Cory.

    So that’s why I think it’s important to put these things online, even if I am not initially taken seriously. There will come a reckoning, and a payment, whether anyone likes it or not, since the rules of information and organization never change.

    How long do Cory, Haugh, Verney, Kohlhaas believe they can keep the truth quiet?

    I suspect that Redpath’s basic nature doesn’t make him LIKE or TOLERATE FOR LONG the use of fraud as a means of achieving revenge. I believe that if he is covering for them temporarily, it is simply because he believes that they have painted him into a corner, and perhaps they have.

    But the paint has to dry sometime.

    -Jake

  22. I guess I should have read the thread a little better, maybe my last post wouldn’t have had to have been so long. Knapp’s quote # 15 is accurate to a T.

  23. I will give insight to a few of Angela’s questions, where I actually know something about the answer to the question. I do this in caps in the following for ease of differentiation, not emphasis:

    A.) What is the proper LNC procedure in the initiation of a lawsuit? I DO NOT KNOW. Does a mention of the possibility of such in a staff report released between LNC meetings constitute proper notice to the board? THERE SEEMS TO BE LITTLE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE BOARD. Do Haugh and Kraus have the authority to initiate a law suit without putting it to a vote of the entire LNC? APPARENTLY SO, AND IF NOT, IF THE BOARD IS NOT UNITED IN THEIR OPPOSITION TO IT, THEN IT WILL HAPPEN. THE BOARD APPEARS TO TOLERATE ANY LEVEL OF MALFEASANCE FROM HAUGH, SO I DOUBT THAT THIS WILL RAISE THEIR IRE. If Redpath has the sole authority, what is the fiduciary duty with regard to financial priorities during severe shortfalls? MY GUESS IS, THE BARR CAMPAIGN WILL WRITE HIM A CHECK, AT A LATER DATE, SINCE THEY HAVE MONEY TO BURN, OR THEY WOULD NOT STILL BE PAYING PEOPLE LIKE HAUGH AND CORY.

    B.) Is the suit a political payback stemming from a confrontation between Carling/Karlan/Sundwall and Macia and Phillies/McMahon at the LPNY ‘07 convention? I DON’T KNOW. Did that confrontation result as of Carling overstepping what was agreed upon by members of the LNC? I DON’T KNOW. Is it a relevant fact that M Carling proposed to strip George Phillies of his life membership at the July ‘07 LNC meeting? I DON’T KNOW. Is it a relevant fact that Aaron Starr proposed an affiliate agreement which singled out LPNH for a daunting level of control by the LNC? PROBABLY SO, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH STARR IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD –AS WAS REDPATH– THAT NH HAD THINGS UNDER CONTROL IN 2004, AND THAT I SHOULD NOT BOTHER TO GO THERE. AND NOW THIS MESS. (AND IF THERE WERE TIGHT DEADLINES, THEN WHY WERE 6 LIBERTARIAN ACTIVISTS SITTING IN ALABAMA WORKING FOR THE CONSTITUTION PARTY, HAVING BEEN FORBIDDEN BY HAUGH TO WORK IN THE STATES WHERE HELP WAS REALLY NECESSARY?) (Starr later withdrew after I made the case that it would lead to infighting and bitterness. Who knew?) What does the ExCom of LPNH want?

    C.) What is the responsibility of the Barr/Root campaign for handling ballot access? APPARENTLY, ROOT HAS NO SAY IN IT, IT IS ALL VERNEY. SEEMINGLY, THE LESS MONEY IS SPENT ON BALLOT ACCESS, THE MORE MONEY GOES INTO VERNEY’S POCKET. THAT’S THE ONLY REASON I CAN THINK OF FOR WHY THEY DIDN’T WANT TO GET ON THE BALLOT IN WEST VIRGINIA. Is it a mis characterization to state that LPNH has no ballot access when the drop dead date was August 6th and the signature validity is known? POSSIBLY, IN WHICH CASE, THE LOOTERS ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE FACADE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO WIN BALLOT ACCESS, WHILE THEY POCKET NICE SALARIES TO PAY MERCENARIES TO DO SHODDY WORK THAT DOESN’T WIN BALLOT ACCESS. A mischaracterization that there is no LP ballot access if Phillies/Bennett ticket has made the ballot? WHO KNOWS? THE COURTS ARE COURTS OF LIES THESE DAYS, AND THE WINNER IS THE ONE WITH THE MOST POLITICAL “PULL”. REFER TO MARC STEVENS ON THIS MATTER, OR GOOGLE “ADVENTURES IN LEGAL LAND”, OR VISIT FIJA.ORG. Does it matter if both are on the ballot? YES, IT WOULD MATTER A GREAT DEAL. AS I HAVE SAID, IT WOULD GIVE OUR ENEMIES AN ETERNAL TOOL TO USE AGAINST US, IF WE DO NOT UNITE AND STAND OPPOSED TO IT. FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS HOW MAYOR DALEY IN CHICAGO DESTROYED HIS OPPOSITION IN THE PRIOR MAYORAL ELECTION. HE ALLOWED ALL OF HIS OPPONENTS ON THE BALLOT, DIVIDING THE ANTI-DALEY VOTE. IN A ZERO-SUM GAME, WITH NO IRV, THE WINNER TAKES ALL, AND APPEARS BENEVOLENT BY ALLOWING THE CRACKPOTS ON THE BALLOT WITH THE SERIOUS OPPOSITION. (ANOTHER REASON TO SHOOT FOR IRV, AND TO ALLOW DONDERO’S FRIEND NADER ON THE BALLOT.) Does it make any difference who is on the ballot as long as the libertarian label is on it? YES, IT DOES. THE MAJOR MEDIA TREATS THE TOTAL FEDERAL VOTE TOTAL AS VASTLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOGIC-BASED LIBERTARIANS DO. THE BIGGER THE NUMBER, THE BIGGER THE STORY, THE BIGGER THE PERCEIVED IMPACT IN JOE SIXPACK’S MIND WHEN HE READS THE STORY. IT MATTERS, BUT IN A DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY WAY.

    Get back to me via email (angela at angelakeaton com) if any of you have serious answers so I don’t have to wade through this most worthless thread.
    HOPEFULLY, YOU WON’T BE TOO UPSET WITH ME FOR VIOLATING TWO CARDINAL RULES WITH THIS POST, BUT IF SO, “JOIN THE CLUB”.

    -JAKE

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