Taxes of Evil 2
Earlier we had a discussion of the Taxes of Evil outreach piece:
We now have a new update.
Final draft of Version1:
Susan writes,
Send your contributions to help print this to my Paypal account!!! Please!
Copies will be sent to all local LPs who request it - courtesy of the
LP Radicals.
Anyone wanting to help with printing (and help is needed! sooner better than later!) can just go to www.paypal.com and use Susan’s email address to send money to: hogarth@gmail.com
Regarding printing and distributing these, Susan says:
By the way, I have no problems with anyone using any of these in any form, modifying them, whatever. No credit neccessary. But PLEASE ask me for the source files. I did the layout in an excellent open source program called Scribus, but can provide the idles as EPS and other formats.
I suggest those looking into working on layout and design look into Scribus.
January 23, 2007 at 5:45 pm
More chatter from me over the lunch-hour:
Thanks for munging my email addy, Paul, but I’m cool with it spammed everywhere. Thank Google, spam is not really much of an issue (love the market!!!)
But anyone wanting to help with printing this thing (and help is needed! sooner better than later!) can just go to http://www.paypal.com and use my email address to send money to: hogarth@gmail.com
Besides the antiwar rally this weekend, I hope to have lots of these available to give away to local affiliates. Someone should be giving gobs of them away at the Fest in NH (may be me if I’m not broke by then) in Feb. I will mail 100 copies to affiliates who request them - free or for whatever you want to include as a donation.
Remember it is a 4×6 glossy postcard (or will be, when printed). Suitable for leaving at coffeeshops, posting on bulletin boards, etc.
Next publication should eb available by February. I’m thinking more of a brochure or weightier piece and less of a one-idea ‘impact piece’ like this is. It will also not focus on war, but probably on somethign like ‘making government smaller’. That’s the current idea, anyway. Suggestions welcome.
Thanks, all!
January 23, 2007 at 6:03 pm
OK, I’ll make it clickable then.
January 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm
That’s a cool flier. I like the message and the layout.
I’ll download it and start leaving them around if Ron Paul drops out of the primaries.
January 23, 2007 at 10:18 pm
No reason you can’t use it if Paul remains in the primaries.
1) He is extremely unlikely to win.
2) If he does not win, there is a good chance he might seek the LP nomination.
3) If he does not seek the LP nomination - presumably we’ll want to promote whoever does, right?
4) Even in the extremely unlikely event that Ron Paul is the Republican nominee, and even if the LP convention then votes for NOTA for president, presumably we will be running other candidates for lower office.
5) We’re already running candidates for lower office this year, regardless of what we do or don’t do next year.
6) You can adjust the file if you get it from Susan and take out the LP contact info, put in Ron Paul or the Advocates or ISIL or whatever you want, or nothing at all. The message should still go out whether or not you choose to associate it with the LP.
As far as the LP/Ron Paul quandry….
As I told Robert Mayer in another thread:
If you feel like also working for Ron Paul in the GOP, that’s fine - it shouldn’t preclude you from working with the LP.
I’ve left open the possibility that I might do some work on the Ron Paul campaign too, although there are some issues such as immigration where I have a big difference with him.
My criteria for whether I will spend any significant effort to help him is whether he will formally introduce impeachment in the House. I consider that to be the moral obligation of any sitting member of Congress and a smart move politically to differentiate himself from the field and get attention. If he does, I’ll do some work on his campaign simultaneously.
For that matter I might help Rich Whitney some if he goes for the Green nomination, and if I see a decent chance for a fairly libertarian candidate among Democrats I may overcome my oath, going back to my disgust at the result of the 1992 primaries, to never participate in that party again. The closest thing to a libertarian in the Donkey Show Party primaries right now is Bill Richardson, and he’s not really close enough, nor likely to win.
Bottom line - don’t let interest in other parties primary candidates stop you from getting involved with the LP; you can do both.
It’s highly unlikely that Ron Paul will get the Republican nomination, and we don’t know at this stage whether he will seek the Libertarian nomination if (or, far more likely, when) he loses. If he does, we can talk about the relative merits of Kubby and Ron Paul for the LP nomiantion at that point - right now, it’s not worth spending too much time to consider a “what if.”
Being a sitting Congressman does not guarantee any great success if he does decide to run LP either - after all we ran him in 1988, and did not do any better than normal.
Also, keep in mind he’s getting along in years and won’t be able to keep up with the grueling campaign schedule near as much as 20 years ago, or to the extent that Kubby can.
So, supposing he does not decide to seek the LP nomination, (he may endorse the Republican nominee or go with the Constitution Party if he decides on a third party race) , we want the LP nominee to be as strong as possible, right?
If all the LP folks quit putting time and money into the LP candidates and focus all their energy on the Ron Paul primary run, where will it put the eventual LP candidate organization-wise if/when Ron Paul loses the Republican primaries and either endorses the Republican nominee or decides to go with the Constitution Party?
For that matter, wouldn’t that also hurt Ron Paul as the LP candidate if that ends up happening? He won’t have the same support structure if all the air goes out of the LP for the next year plus.
I’d say that would put us significantly behind where we need to be.
I’m going to be working on backup plans.
After all, it’s not certain that Kubby, or even someone acceptable will get the LP nod; for all we know it might be someone like Boortz.
So in case that happens, I’ll put at least some energy into the primary candidates I like for the other parties’ nominations.
I would suggest you and others do the same, particularly if the primary candidate you are backing is a long shot in their party, as Ron Paul certainly is in the GOP.
January 23, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Hey, Paul - what happened to your ‘focus on the flyer, not on issues’ take? Does that only apply to other posters? ;-)
January 23, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Matt - I’m delighted you like it. PLEASE send an email to hogarth@gmail.com for the source files or for an 8×11 version that can be printed B/W. Better yet, just send me your mailing address (OFFline, by email!) and I’ll send you 100 or so of the cards.
This will look pretty terrible if you just grab the jpgs, plop them on paper, and print them out. I mean *terrible*. The JPGs are *not* meant to be print-ready versions - they are lo-res versions for web display only. And the card is designed to be 4×6.
Hmm. I suppose I should offer larger JPGs that can look good in B/W when printed right off the web. I’ll work on that. But meantime, send me your address!
January 23, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Actually no, I’m going to try to keep it focused in this thread too and ask people to move
tangents into other threads, but I’ll go one round on tangents before it becomes clear we’re veering too far off course. Also, it had not become as much of a problem here yet.
Plus, this is not as bad of a tangent as what happened in the other thread.
The other guy was basically disagreeing with the whole premise of what we are trying to do here and kept at it for four rounds until I finally said, move along or get deleted.
The Ron Paul thing, we’ll have to deal with - I got basically the same comment on another thread that I had just finished answering.
It seems like we are seeing a lot of people all over saying “well, I like Kubby but Ron Paul is in the Republican primaries..” or even like here “I like your flier but I can’t have anything to do with the LP until Ron Paul is out of the Republican primaries..” so we’re going to have to address that no matter what we do.
But, you’re right - I would prefer not to get into that too much here, there’s other threads for that.
January 23, 2007 at 10:36 pm
I’m just teasing!
January 23, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Well, you did have a legitimate point though. I don’t want to be too much of a hypocrite.
Plus not everyone reading this thread has read the other one, so I thought I’d make it a little more clear what you were referring to.
January 23, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Oh, by the way - I just recieved a contribution for $43.00! (thanks, LE!)
Coupled with an earlier contribution of $50 (thanks, PJ!), that’s nearly $100.
These contributions are from folks in my local Party. I hope we can spread it around the country some :)
So, here’s the current deal on printing:
I didn’t have time to do a cheapie-internet order and allow me to have the opportunity to proof the cards before Saturday’s roadtrip to DC. So what I am planning to do is order 1,000 of them from a local printer at a cost of around $215 (Note: that is TWICE what I have collected so far. I do want to eat lunch in DC in Saturday, so help!! $10 would be wonderful!) The files are at the printer, and I should be able to see a proof Thursday evening.
After Saturday, I will have time for a more leisurely order process and will be collecting more funds for an internet order of 5-10K (depending on how well they ‘go over’ in the flesh). At that time, of course, I could also make edits if desired. I’ll be able to see a proof, get the cheapest shipping, and still get the ultra-low prices those internet places offer on this sort of material. With shipping, it should come to $200-$300 for 5K of them.
So keep the money coming. I will post a picture of some of the *actual cards* when I get a proof. I hope the color matching comes out OK.
Again, keep the money coming (to hogarth@gmail.com at http://www.paypal.com) and let me know if you want me to ship 100 or so to you for your local affiliate to use. That’s the purpose of them, after all :)
Won’t it be cool when people start calling the national LP and asking for ‘more of those way-cool antiwar cards’? woo!
January 23, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Susan, I would also like to add to the positive comments on your work - OUTSTANDING! I especially like the “Taxes of Evil” theme - that’s brilliant!
- Robert -
January 24, 2007 at 1:37 am
Hmm.
Hope it works.
January 24, 2007 at 1:43 am
Thanks, Robert! For both forms of support :)
Stuart: you hope what works? the printing?
January 24, 2007 at 2:04 am
The poster campaign.
January 24, 2007 at 2:33 am
OK, sorry to sound dense… but what poster campaign?
This graphic is for a 4×6 *postcard*. Those glossy things that get passed out at record stores and coffee shops. Not a poster (though now I am tempted).
Not to be testy or anything… but it’s not a poster! :)
January 24, 2007 at 2:34 am
It’s also not a tumor.
It iz NOT a TUMOR!
January 24, 2007 at 2:40 am
Poster would actually be a good idea.
I can see it in college dorm rooms across the country.
January 24, 2007 at 2:58 am
None of that tumor talk, boy!
But, yes, poster cool. I just went wild downloading 4000+ fonts, so poster definitely a possibility.
One font is ‘ransom’, os I have a cool idea for an April 15th piece… something like ‘pay us or else…’
January 24, 2007 at 5:52 am
Playing with my new fonts this evening (is that weird?) I threw together this anti-intervention poster inspired by Bush’s speech tonight (which I of course ignored):
http://picasaweb.google.com/hogarth/LibertarianOutreach
That one *is* suitable for printing straight onto 8.5×11 paper (landscape) - which is why it’s such an ungodly big file. Probably unnecessarily so, as the whole effect was sort of lo-res anyway. But whatever. Have fun. Should be good enough for a dorm room door, anyway.
January 24, 2007 at 6:23 am
Awesome!@ Rocks!@
I’ll X-post and promote as per usual.
Only one small thing tho…you should capitalize LP.org
“What’s one pee dot org?”
January 24, 2007 at 6:36 am
It’s http://1p.org/
But really… I don’t it’s an issue. That’s (1) obviously not a 1, and (2) a 1 doesn’t make sense there.
Tho’ maybe the LP should fork over the bucks for that domina, just to be sure ;-)
January 24, 2007 at 6:42 am
Domina?
First Pee and now S&M?
What a bunch of freaks!
Seriously….people are retarded. I recommend capitalizing the L whenever possible.
Not that I don’t forget sometimes.
January 24, 2007 at 6:55 am
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January 24, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Well, keep up the good work guys. :)
January 24, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Thanks! Got the proof back today and it looks pretty good. Unless there’s a disaster at the printshop, they’ll be driving up to DC with me on Saturday. I’ll be high on ink fumes; just having the -proof- in the car was bad enough - imagine 1,000 of the little stinkers :)
January 31, 2007 at 1:19 am
digg here
http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/taxes-of-evil-2/
BTW did these ever go out at the rally and how did that go?
January 31, 2007 at 1:20 am
Dammit, copied the wrong thing again:
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Taxes_of_Evil_2
February 1, 2007 at 5:25 am
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February 2, 2007 at 9:17 am
HO!hi.
Good article!
February 2, 2007 at 7:40 pm
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